P.J. Denyer
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And if they don't support the government position we'll replace them with alternate facts.
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And if they don't support the government position we'll replace them with alternate facts.
Tero
Philosopher
On the documents topic: most states cannot ID you as a resident based on the drivers license. Mine does, as it connects to the voting registry as well, if the officer stopping you has a computer. It is noted on the license on line version whether you are a voter or not. That still leaves green card or other visa unverified. Outside of my state, none of the papers I own show citizenship. I have an expired passport I could carry around.
Tero
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Dabop
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ALL my drivers licence shows is that I am a resident of a particular state, that i am over 18 if its a full licence (as if thats not obvious just by looking at me lol) and what class of vehicles I am allowed to drive- it doesn't show my voting status (or lack of it)- indeed a mate who came from Columbia to live in Australia has the exact same Queensland drivers licence that I do, we are both residents of Queensland (in fact the being resident in the particular state is the only way to GET a drivers licence from that state) and yet as he isn't an Aussie citizen (has a working visa and is applying for a residency, but isn't yet) he has NO voting rights at all
But here, showing being a resident of a particular state is most certainly part of what your drivers licence does lol
Here you have to be on the Electoral roll, and there is no 'voting document to prove that you can carry btw)- at voting time you rock up to any voting station in Australia or its territories (or at an Australian Embassy if outside those areas), vote on paper (which is completely anonymous on the paper itself) and that paper is put in an envelope along and your name is 'marked off the roll' drivers licence required if outside your home electorate- a paper roll in your home electorate, or outside, you 'vote absentee' and your name and electorate is marked on the envelope and its placed in the 'voting box'
All voting procedures/counting/electoral boundaries etc etc is done by the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) which is independent of the government (although funded by them at a set rate- neither the party in power nor the Opposition can do anything by 'fiddling with the funding' to swing the numbers in their favour...
The AEC also collects and holds the papers (as well as vetting the rolls etc) for a period of time after the election if a recount is demanded...
Other than you, your corrupt counterparts in this administration, including your boss.
Seriously, every time one of these talking heads like Blondi, Patel or Noem utter that phrase, it cracks me up, and makes me want to throw up.
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Tero
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Yeah, the DL does not show me anything either, but the state government has the info when I applied for the license. So only officials cans see it. You can register to vote here when yout get the driver or non-driver ID. At the desk where you apply. Just an x in a box.
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If he had just complied and let them process him and add him to their facial recognition database he would have been free to go.
WATCH: “I’m a citizen. I’m a citizen.”
ICE didn’t even look at his ID. His boss came out holding up his passport to the agent’s windshield and they ignored it.
Then they threatened to take him in anyway unless he let them scan his face and told him he was being depor
ted.
WATCH: “I’m a citizen. I’m a citizen.”
ICE didn’t even look at his ID. His boss came out holding up his passport to the agent’s windshield and they ignored it.
Then they threatened to take him in anyway unless he let them scan his face and told him he was being depor
ted.
Tero
Philosopher
Chief and a couple of tough guys without masks vs Minnesota
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For many years, I went to the polling station and gave the ladies
at the table my voter registration certificate. They checked it against
the registration rolls, handed it back, and gave me a chit to sign avowing
that I was voting. Then I got my ballot, voted in the little privacy
shelter, fed my ballot into the counting machine, and went home.
Nowadays, I get my ballot in the mail, mark it, and mail it back. No
doubt somebody in Lansing finds me on a voter roll and certifies
on pain of perjury that, yes, I am a born human voter in michigan.
Since you can't register to vote without proof of Michigan residence,
state law is satisfied, and so is federal law. So WTAF more is voter ID
supposed to accomplish?
Flash! This just in: Krusty Gnome sez people better get ready to show proof of citizenship!
Wooo, now I'm scared!
at the table my voter registration certificate. They checked it against
the registration rolls, handed it back, and gave me a chit to sign avowing
that I was voting. Then I got my ballot, voted in the little privacy
shelter, fed my ballot into the counting machine, and went home.
Nowadays, I get my ballot in the mail, mark it, and mail it back. No
doubt somebody in Lansing finds me on a voter roll and certifies
on pain of perjury that, yes, I am a born human voter in michigan.
Since you can't register to vote without proof of Michigan residence,
state law is satisfied, and so is federal law. So WTAF more is voter ID
supposed to accomplish?
Flash! This just in: Krusty Gnome sez people better get ready to show proof of citizenship!
Wooo, now I'm scared!
Because maga felt it isn't despicable enough.
*Heavens! I called an execution an execution.
It's important to not only demean and libel the woman executed* by ice, they have to terrify children now.
*Heavens! I called an execution an execution.
Safe-Keeper
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The cruelty is truly the point.
Safe-Keeper
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I was going to say that I interpreted her talking more about how they operated than what they sought to uphold, but then it dawned on me that in a way... ICE is definitely out there to uphold slavery. At least if we draw a line from slavery to the use of (for-profit) prisons as a kind of 'new slavery' where disadvantaged people, and disproportionally non-white people, are exploited for labour. Then we can extend that line and say that the new rounding-up of people into concentration camps is (partly) a way to mitigate the loss of income, now that crime is plummeting in the USA.
So... Maybe a parallell after all?
P.J. Denyer
Penultimate Amazing
If you go around calling executing executioners 'Executioners' just because they go around executing people you'll make them execute someone...
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Tero
Philosopher
It's supposed to get the casual voter, those two guys in their 30s playing video games in mom's basement, not interested in voting at all. They just lost their Medicaid. What good is government at all to them?
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They are placing bowling balls in buckets at the top of rickety stairs so when our agents accidentally tip them up they will roll down and hit a plank, that hurls a guy into a tub, which will, through a further series of unlikely events cause a cage to come rattling down and potentially imprison our agents in the course of their duties.
And when warm weather comes, the terroristids will start spreading
banana peels! Actual empty banana skins on the streets of our cities!
Imagine -- try to visualize -- the tragic pratfalls our heroic ICE warriors will
suffer then! Louder than Laurel & Hardy, more immense than the 3 Stooges,
shattering beyond Abbott & Costello, they will suffer as only federal employees
can!
Prepare your empathy, citizens. You will need it.