General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory

Andy_Ross said:
Windrush revisionism

"The whole Windrush story is a preposterous legend. Labour shortages in 1940s Britain? There were returning armies! The entire myth that Britain was built by immigrants begins with a demonstrable lie."

@DrDStarkeyCBE
on the Sceptic.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997008340275057007
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The more you hear Starkey speak, the more you have to wonder who he got to think up of and write his theses and books.
 
Andy_Ross said:
As for whole armies returning, he forgets the huge numbers that were killed or badly injured, both military and civilian.
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In the recent BBC series on the British Empire by David Olusoga he mentioned that large numbers of Brits emigrated after the war, mostly to places that were still part of the Empire like Australia. This was encouraged by the government, despite the shortage of labour to rebuild, as a way of keeping such places British, according to Olusoga.
 
Andy_Ross said:
As for whole armies returning, he forgets the huge numbers that were killed or badly injured, both military and civilian.
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Yes, and he also forgets that those armies originally left workplaces, leaving it desperately short of workers. Women went into workplaces to fill the gaps, as far as possible.
 
Andy_Ross said:
As for whole armies returning, he forgets the huge numbers that were killed or badly injured, both military and civilian.
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Total deaths due to the war in the UK as a percentage of the population in 1939 was just under 1%. You can double that, if you include military wounded and assume that none of them could ever work again.

There were about a thousand people on the Windrush and apparently about 500 thousand people from all Commonwealth countries who arrived here before 1970. So the Windrush generation is a similar order of magnitude to the killed and wounded of WW2.

At the end of the war, there were more than three million people in the armed forces, most of whom were demobbed. Starkey is, broadly speaking correct. The economic migrants on the Windrush were not needed in the sense of having to rebuild Britain.

That does not mean they should not have been welcomed, nor does it mean that the economic migrants today should not be welcomed. Immigration is broadly speaking good for the economy and good for government finances.
 
GlennB said:
Yes, and he also forgets that those armies originally left workplaces, leaving it desperately short of workers. Women went into workplaces to fill the gaps, as far as possible.
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Not to mention that there were changes to society after the war, for example the foundation of the NHS, which affected the numbers and make-up of the required workforce.
 
Andrew Bridgen
@ABridgen
Baby deaths have increased by 77% since the Covid 19 ‘vaccine’ rollout. This is why baby death and still born funerals are now organised and funded by the hospital trust they occurred in. This is how they are being covered up. The legislation was passed to fund the funerals because the Government knew what would happen post the rollout. Funeral Directors didn’t normally charge for babies funerals they were rare- but they would have noticed a 77% increase in them and it would have been reported

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997623587650302030
 
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