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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

acbytesla said:
Amen brother!
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Going back to the Church or porn for kids if forced to choose scenario: are you still taking the kids to see porn if it means they end up watching what looks like underage sex (ponytails, lollipops, school uniforms, very young looking, petit actors etc). The Bonnie Blue school room orgy?

Remember, it was you who freely stated that:
acbytesla said:
I'm of the belief that more harm to children is done at any and every church or mosque than is ever done by kids looking at porn.
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acbytesla said:
Oh yes it is. There is almost no book ever written that is more depraved than the Bible. Maybe the Quran.
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I was talking about the Bible when I referenced a Christian film on the barely legal porn industry?
 
Poem said:
I was talking about the Bible when I referenced a Christian film on the barely legal porn industry.
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Propaganda or the spreading of lies to advance the religious agenda of a detestable religion is depraved.
 
acbytesla said:
Propaganda or the spreading of lies to advance the religious agenda of a detestable religion is depraved.
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Have you watched the film? There are zero scriptures and zero reference to Christianity but there is footage or real porn (blurred where necessary) and interviews with porn producers and actors.

Barely legal is depraved and you are uncomfortable with that fact.
 
Poem said:
According to Darat I face a lengthy prison sentence if I were caught watching internet porn that depicts actors looking underage. He's wrong of course, but it will be law soon.
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No, according to current legislation that is the law now. That you won't read the current legislation really hampers your ability to argue your point.
 
Darat said:
As I stated it is illegal right now in the UK, the prison sentence is up to 10 years if you are found to possess or view such material. What is illegal on DVD and blu-ray is illegal on line, in the UK. People are caught, prosecuted and when found guilty in a court sentenced for up to 10 years in prison, there may also be lifelong punishments.
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Darat said:
If it is not strictly illegal then it is legal, people will unfortunately always try to get away with terrible behaviour, pushing at the boundaries of what is legal and illegal. And you consistently misunderstand what the report means by saying it would be illegal on DVD etc. They are not saying that the content featuring children is legal online. They are saying that such content is available to people from the UK, that does not mean it is legal to view or download such illegal in the UK content.

This is from the CPS website:
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Darat said:
See the CPS explanation of what falls under indecent. It doesn't matter if it is in a physical or purely digital format, the content that you asked me about is already illegal in the UK. You can go to the primary legislation and read it for yourself: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents ETA:You'll also have to cross reference with the protection of children act 1978: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/37/contents
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Poem said:
Have you watched the film? There are zero scriptures and zero reference to Christianity but there is footage or real porn (blurred where necessary) and interviews with porn producers and actors.

Barely legal is depraved and you are uncomfortable with that fact.
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No, it's not.

You and I have different definitions of depraved. That you post a video of lying liars demonstrates you don't care about the facts. I have watched my share of porn including some labeled "barely legal." None of the performers show signs of being underage or under duress. It's neither illegal or depraved.
 
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Darat said:
No, according to current legislation that is the law now. That you won't read the current legislation really hampers your ability to argue your point.
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This isn't about me - or rather it is about me or (anyone) having reasonable faith in the following (which I posted just recently but you haven't responded to):

Have already linked to that Guardian article when we discussed this before. Here's Bertin:
Lady Bertin said she planned to lodge amendments to the crime and policing bill in the autumn to make it illegal for online platforms to host any content that could encourage child sexual abuse, including pornography filmed by adults dressed as children. “This content is pushing at the boundaries. We will be trying to address the ‘barely legal’ aspect legislatively,” she said.

You appear to have forgotten this.

The wording is unambiguous: Bertin and the porn taskforce want to make it illegal. If the law states that it is illegal now, then there must be some issue with wording or definition otherwise the coming Crime and Policing Bill would be totally redundant.
 
@Darat

I'll repost this:

Crime and Policing Bill (April 2025):
This amendment, tabled by Jess Asato MP, would extend content regulations that already exist for pornography distributed offline to pornography distributed online. This amendment is necessary to ensure what is illegal offline is illegal online and thereby combat the proliferation of violence against women in online pornography.

The sexualisation of children
3. The current laws regulating pornographic content do not go far enough to protect adults and children from the harms of pornography.

4. Since 1984, legislation has existed to specifically prohibit offline content that the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) would find unsuitable for classification, including in the R18 category, on videos, DVDs and Blu-Ray. This includes pornographic content which depicts illegal activity such as rape or incest, and any material that is potentially harmful, for example because it depicts and/or promotes child sexual abuse, trafficking, or violent sexual acts.

5. There is no equivalent standard to the BBFC’s regulation for online pornographic content as the internet has evolved largely without regulatory oversight.
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The bottom line is point 5. Without classification, then internet porn is...well, unclassified. No one will be prosecuted until the BBFC or equivalent determines a classification for each and every video.
 
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Poem said:
This isn't about me - or rather it is about me or (anyone) having reasonable faith in the following (which I posted just recently but you haven't responded to):

Have already linked to that Guardian article when we discussed this before. Here's Bertin:
Lady Bertin said she planned to lodge amendments to the crime and policing bill in the autumn to make it illegal for online platforms to host any content that could encourage child sexual abuse, including pornography filmed by adults dressed as children. “This content is pushing at the boundaries. We will be trying to address the ‘barely legal’ aspect legislatively,” she said.

You appear to have forgotten this.

The wording is unambiguous: Bertin and the porn taskforce want to make it illegal. If the law states that it is illegal now, then there must be some issue with wording or definition otherwise the coming Crime and Policing Bill would be totally redundant.
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Of course it's about you. You want to force your ideas about morality on the rest of society. You and the other dishonest uptight zealots.
 
acbytesla said:
Of course it's about you. You want to force your ideas about morality on the rest of society. You and the other dishonest uptight zealots.
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At the moment, porn saturates the internet, so if any forcing has taken place then it is those that are pro-porn. Kids remain unsafe on the net - the net they have a right to.
 
Poem said:
At the moment, porn saturates the internet, so if any forcing has taken place then it is those that are pro-porn. Kids remain unsafe on the net - the net they have a right to.
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Nonsense. If they are unsafe, it has nothing to do with legal pornography.
 
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