Cont: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9

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Witkoff Advised Russia on How to Pitch Ukraine Plan to Trump

US presidential envoy Steve Witkoff, fresh from the triumph of the Gaza peace deal, held a phone call last month with a senior Kremlin official to suggest they work together on a similar plan for Ukraine — and that Vladimir Putin should raise it with Donald Trump.
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EXCLUSIVE: US presidential envoy Steve Witkoff advised Russia on how to pitch Ukraine plans to Trump, in audio files reviewed by Bloomberg
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Meanwhile, the battle for Pokrovsk rages on. Magyar's Birds have been brought in to sic their drones on Russian assault teams that have infiltrated the town. The Ukrainian Directorate of Military Intelligence have deployed their best drone operators to hit high-value targets behind the Russian front line.

Improbably, Ukrainian ground troops in Myrnograd, rather than escaping their encirclement, have launched a counteroffensive into Pokrovsk instead.

And Ukrainian long range strikes continue to dismantle Russia as a functional industrial economy.
 
Selling Ukraine to Russia

Q: Have you heard this audio that Bloomberg has of Witkoff coaching the Russians on how to appeal to you?

TRUMP: That's a standard thing. He's gotta sell this to Ukraine, he's gonna sell Ukraine to Russia. That's what a dealmaker does. I haven't heard it but I heard it was standard negotiation

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They can go bigger. They can return the land they already took, return the Ukrainians they already kidnapped, and pay reparations for all the horrors they have committed.

There's no need to let them lock in their current gains. We can insist on setting them back to square one. We can keep fighting to the last Russian, if that's what Ukraine wants to do.
 
They are going to get the land anyway.

Reporter: Do you think do you think that Ukraine was being asked to give too much land back to Russia? I know at one point you said it shouldn't have to give any.

Trump: The way it's going, if you look, it's just moving in one direction. So eventually that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway…

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"Over the next couple of months"? He's talking about at most a few hundred metres of a few parts of the front line then.

Not that the Ukrainians should agree to it but, rather like the Winter War, the Russians are taking barely enough land to bury their dead.
 
President Vladimir Putin has doubled down on his core demands for ending the war in Ukraine, stating that Russia will lay down arms only if Kyiv's troops withdraw from territory claimed by Moscow.

Speaking to reporters during a trip to Kyrgyzstan, Putin accused Kyiv of wanting to fight "to the last Ukrainian" - which he said Russia was "in principle" also ready to do.

He repeated his view that Russia has the initiative on the battlefield and the fighting would only end when Ukrainian troops withdrew from the embattled territories.

"If they don't withdraw, we'll achieve this by force of arms," he said.

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Putin doubles down on demands for Ukrainian territory ahead of talks with US

The Russian president accuses Kyiv of wanting to fight "to the last Ukrainian" - which he says Russia is also "in principle" ready to do.
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◊◊◊◊ him. We know he won't stop there. He wants the whole country. He thinks the whole thing is Little Russia and belongs to him, despite being temporarily under the spell of "Nazis" who have forgotten they're really lesser Russians, subservient to Moscow. If only he can kill enough of them he can break the spell and they'll remember they love being ruled by Moscow as is their destiny.

◊◊◊◊ that guy.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
◊◊◊◊ him. We know he won't stop there. He wants the whole country. He thinks the whole thing is Little Russia and belongs to him, despite being temporarily under the spell of "Nazis" who have forgotten they're really lesser Russians, subservient to Moscow. If only he can kill enough of them he can break the spell and they'll remember they love being ruled by Moscow as is their destiny.

◊◊◊◊ that guy.
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I believe he would stop there. For a while. A few years, maybe.
 
a_unique_person said:
He's already actively moving to take over and destabilise the smaller countries like Romania and Moldova. Georgia is in transition to being a complete puppet state.
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Destabilizing Romania and Moldova doesn't do much good, if he can't roll tanks into the capital and impose his new order. Western Europe is much better positioned to contain such destabilization, than Moscow is positioned to exploit it.

Meanwhile, he's losing his grip on Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.
 
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