Trump's Second Term

Onion:
“But I’m supposed to be his piggy—I’m supposed to be his only piggy,” a weeping Vance said this week as he collapsed against the locked bathroom door..."
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JD Vance Cries In Bathroom After Trump Uses ‘Piggy’ Nickname On Someone Else

WASHINGTON—In the wake of a controversial incident aboard Air Force One in which President Donald Trump insulted a female journalist, Vice President JD Vance is said to have wept in his office bathroom, furious that the commander-in-chief had used his special “piggy” nickname on someone else...
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TragicMonkey said:
I know, right? Four to six months? I was hoping for a very merry Xmas surprise.
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They'll use "acharnement thérapeutique" a.k.a therapeutic obstinacy/futile medical procedures to keep him (apparently) alive until his presence isn't necessary anymore, as was done for Gen Franco, HiroHito*, Algeria's Bouteflika, etc.
 
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jimbob said:
You might appreciate this short video, from a physical therapist with professional experience of working with geriatric patients with dementia.

Slightly NSFW language at one point.

But worth comparing the spoken words with the subtitles.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992732907669168182
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Trump might have dementia, but I don't.

I do remember all the times where Donnie or Putin where terminally ill, dead or in prison within a few weeks. Countless predictions from youtubers or Twitter Birds, Trump is done, Putin is done, Russia is done, MAGA is done...
Wake me up when it actually happens.
 
Don't worry about orders being illegal your duty is to do what Donald tells you.

Also isn't the oath to uphold the Constitution?

BLITZER: I just want to be precise. Should members of the US military or intelligence community obey what are clearly illegal orders?

LISA McCLAIN: You're asking an enlisted person for their opinion on what they think is legal or illegal. That's a pretty slippery slope. Follow your commander in chief. That's the oath that you took

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992979894330904591
 
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Andy_Ross said:
LISA McCLAIN: You're asking an enlisted person for their opinion on what they think is legal or illegal. That's a pretty slippery slope.
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Being aware of whether what you're about to do is legal or illegal is a burden and a duty we place on every person all the time in any walk of life. If you can't explain your rules of engagement to your troops, good luck explaining them to a judge afterwards.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Bessent: "You know the best way to bring your inflation rate down? Move from a blue state to a red state. Blue state inflation is half a percent higher."
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is any truth to this fact?

Given the fact that the government doesn't seem to be interested in releasing economic information, you would have to wonder how he would know THIS particular fact.

Of course, there are all sorts of other arguments that can be made:

- Even if inflation is lower in red states, trump promised he would CUT prices when he got into office, not have them grow slower

- cost increases are only part of the issue. Wage increases are also important. Even if blue states have higher inflation, its possible that wages are growing to keep pace.

- There are other issues apart from inflation... overall quality of life is important. For example, if you are a working woman (or a man who actually has empathy), would you want to leave a blue state where women can get adequate health care to go live in some red state where there are severe abortion restrictions and as a result doctors have abandoned the state?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Being aware of whether what you're about to do is legal or illegal is a burden and a duty we place on every person all the time in any walk of life. If you can't explain your rules of engagement to your troops, good luck explaining them to a judge afterwards.
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Not American and have never been involved in any military anywhere, but...

During military training, are recruits ever given any sort of classroom instructions about what are legal vs. illegal orders? (Maybe not to the point where they can argue things in the supreme court, but at least a basic "shooting Americans who are not a threat is wrong. Don't do it".
 
jimbob said:
You might appreciate this short video, from a physical therapist with professional experience of working with geriatric patients with dementia.

Slightly NSFW language at one point.

But worth comparing the spoken words with the subtitles.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992732907669168182
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I've got £100 to anyone's 50 that Trump lives longer than that. 25 even ...
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Being aware of whether what you're about to do is legal or illegal is a burden and a duty we place on every person all the time in any walk of life. If you can't explain your rules of engagement to your troops, good luck explaining them to a judge afterwards.
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Wasn't Hegseth talking about significantly changing the rules of engagement so that anything goes, suggesting atrocities and war crimes will be acceptable?
 
Armitage72 said:
Wasn't Hegseth talking about significantly changing the rules of engagement so that anything goes, suggesting atrocities and war crimes will be acceptable?
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Yes he was. He kept it vague-ish but he definitely wanted his ferocious and maximally lethal war-fighters to feel unimpeded by namby-pamby stuff like war crimes or human rights violations. I imagine the lawyers explained it to him when he calmed down a bit.
 
I don't suppose it should come as much of a surprise that an administration so implacably opposed to historical accuracy, truth and rational thought should go from policies that sound alarmingly like those of Nazis to polices that are exactly like those of Nazis, but it's still, oddly enough, a little disturbing.

Meanwhile, we have a little unintended consequence from the new Xitter policy that promises to doxx and kill dissidents across the world:

www.theguardian.com

Many prominent Maga personalities on X are based outside US, new tool reveals

Users posing as rightwing Americans are operating internationally, per the platform’s transparency feature
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jimbob said:
You might appreciate this short video, from a physical therapist with professional experience of working with geriatric patients with dementia.

Slightly NSFW language at one point.

But worth comparing the spoken words with the subtitles.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992732907669168182
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Riffing off that "4 to 6 months" thing, and just asking questions* here:

Wouldn't others such as Stephen Miller be very aware of Trump's condition and potential upcoming demise?

If so, from what we know of Miller, would he be making contingency plans for such a thing?

If so, would such contingency plans be focused on a nice, tasteful memorial service or would they be focused on how to stay in (and maybe increase) power?

If it was "how to stay in power," would he stick with established constitutional law and traditional government transitions or would he be looking at . . . non-traditional (for the US) methods?

If .. . non traditional, what do we think is play will be? Does he find a way to blame the Democrats, or maybe to blame other factions of the Trumpisphere? Make it look like the death was not due to natural causes? Will he be fighting to pursue previously-unannounced vital Trump initiatives that are "what Trump would want us to do?" Use Trump's death as a reason to suspend elections? To weed out the "bad elements" in Congress and the courts?

I can't decide if this is just a one-off rhetorical post or should be a new thread.

*okay, make that "just asking leading questions."
 
carlosy said:
Trump might have dementia, but I don't.

I do remember all the times where Donnie or Putin where terminally ill, dead or in prison within a few weeks. Countless predictions from youtubers or Twitter Birds, Trump is done, Putin is done, Russia is done, MAGA is done...
Wake me up when it actually happens.
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Well they were all right about H Clinton weren't they? Remember back in 2016 she was incredible ill and weak, people didn't think she'd even last to the end of the campaign, I mean twice she was seen to stumble! I was surprised how low key her funeral was.
 
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