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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

Vixen said:
Ah, the Diana II. It was found to need repairs, etc., as of Jan 1993. But you'll note in the JAIC Report, it confirms the bow visor for the Estonia was locked* as of the start of the voyage. As if one ship needing maintenance means it follows that it's exactly the same problem for others. The Diana II likely wasn't locked properly and the captain saw it opening from the bridge, so no harm done.

*A triple mechanism.
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That was a nice deflection to avoid answering the question. But very visible for all to see. Will you actually backup your statement on what is lacking?
 
Vixen said:
Ah, the Diana II. It was found to need repairs, etc., as of Jan 1993. But you'll note in the JAIC Report, it confirms the bow visor for the Estonia was locked* as of the start of the voyage. As if one ship needing maintenance means it follows that it's exactly the same problem for others. The Diana II likely wasn't locked properly and the captain saw it opening from the bridge, so no harm done.

*A triple mechanism.
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We have the reports for previous inspections of the Estonia.
They note it's poor condition and the bad repairs to the bow from previous damage.
It was only certified for coastal work because of its condition.
 
Vixen said:
I did not make any claim. Someone asked where I got the phrase from and I told them. If it makes you feel powerful to call me a liar and to refer to yourself as 'we', can I suggest a tough reality check?
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More evidence that you don't read your own posts, let alone anyone else's.

Vixen said:
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'Kimo sabi', is cockney slang for, 'Do you speak English?'

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Vixen said:
I have now looked it up, the original issue being open-minded versus closed-minded and I cited a Quora writer who defined original thinking (=open-mindedness) in terms of >130 IQ plus Myers-Briggs IN-type. I neither agree nor disagree with this; I was helping to find a definition to challenge the idea that anyone who seeks to understand the JAIC Report is a 'conspiracy theorist' as emphatically claimed by some posters. I was asked where I came across Myers-Briggs and I said circa late-80's. There then followed a strong denial British Mensa would ever let a psychologist have consent to apply such a questionnaire. But I remember it distinctly and I am right because here is a third-party independent corroboration:
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That in no-way supports your claim.
 
Vixen said:
The Diana II is known to have sailed with its bow visor rising up, with no consequence.
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A deceptive comment, as ever -

AI - "The statement is misleading; the
Diana II had an incident where its bow visor was severely damaged by bad weather, and the captain averted disaster by turning the ship astern. It was a warning sign that the visor was a critical safety feature prone to failure, which ultimately led to the sinking of its sister ship, the Estonia. The Diana II incident is known because the captain's quick action prevented a catastrophe that was very similar to the one that befell the Estonia"

So, it was a dire emergency with disaster averted by a quick-thinking captin.
 
catsmate said:
In my case almost certainly better than you.
I have had articles on the history of London published, and I have family connections. A great uncle was a participant at Cable Street.
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Then you ought to know it extends beyond. 'Goin' dahn the rub a dub dub, eh? Ap the apples and pears...awri'? Innit'.
 
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