Trump's Second Term

Andy_Ross said:
Trumpcare

Trump: "What I want is instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so good. The insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody is gonna be happy. They're gonna feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. Call it Trumpcare."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1988035966632599763
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As the US has seen with voucher based education, voucher based healtcare will only ever be of benefit to the rich.
 
AmyStrange said:
Hmm... is the BBC allowed to use discovery in the fat clown's suit against them since he's out of the country?

"Oh, the places we could go..." if I was their lawyer.

The quote is a paraphrasing of an old Dr. Suess book. Oh, the Places You'll Go.


ETA: I used to work for a Legal Copy company that did most of the legal discovery work for Microsoft, including the Jimi Hendrix lawsuit by his father. The father won and then threw Paul Allen (who financed it) under the bus.

Allen originally wanted to call that weird building (at the Seattle Center) the "Jimi Hendrix Experience".

Believe me, discovery can cover a lot of crap, and I got to see (and hold) a lot of Jimi Hendrix's private letters, and his original hand-written song sheets too, and that was damn cool.

His father... not so much.
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The court case is being brought in Florida. Trump wouldn't bring a case in England because England has an independent apolitical judiciary and he would get a fair hearing. (Also damages are far more limited in England.)

So any discovery would be under Florida law.
 
Planigale said:
The court case is being brought in Florida. Trump wouldn't bring a case in England because England has an independent apolitical judiciary and he would get a fair hearing. (Also damages are far more limited in England.)

So any discovery would be under Florida law.
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There's a fair chance the state that gave the USA Pam Bondi as the AG will fail to discover that the Beeb is in fact not a US media firm.
 
Blue Mountain said:
What a surprise ...

‪Carolyn Barber on Bluesky said:
Only in Trump World…
A demolition company sues the White House for unpaid work on the East Wing.
After months of “delays, denials, and deliberate avoidance,”A federal court orders Trump to pay — plus $500,000 in damages.
You can’t make this up.
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Apparently you can make it all up.

Snopes has investigated claims that the demolition company was suing the Trump administration for non-payment, and found no evidence to support it. Furthermore, the company that published the original article (USAmidia) is not seen as a reputable news source.

Overall, the story doesn't really make sense. As another poster mentioned earlier, the demolition was just finished less than a month ago... they would likely not expect payment for at least a few weeks. And even if they did decide to sue over unpaid fees, it is doubtful they would get any sort of decision this quickly. (These things tend to drag out for months if not years.)

From: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-dont-buy-claim-140000426.html
One Threads user wrote: "JUST IN; ACECO Engineering & Construction, the firm in charge of the White House East Wing demolition, has called out President Donald Trump over unpaid balances... It appeared to originate from an article on USAmidia a website that published stories using seemingly fake or embellished statements... Searches on Google, Yahoo, Bing and DuckDuckGo produced no evidence of reputable news outlets reporting on the alleged statement..There was no trace of the USAmidia article's purported author, Melinda Holbert, on X, Facebook or Google... There was also no evidence that (the) company had publicly complained about unpaid bills.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Trumpcare

Trump: "What I want is instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so good. The insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody is gonna be happy. They're gonna feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. Call it Trumpcare."
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Because that's what you want when you or one of your kids falls desperately ill. You want to have to negotiate. From a position of weakness. With businessmen who know they have you over a barrel.

You'll feel like an entrepreneur as you haggle for your child's expensive cancer treatment against people who do this every day for a living. That's what you want, right?

I mean, maybe it is, I don't know. My only experience of it is my own child's (completely successful) cancer treatment got paid for by everyone out of general taxation so I have no real idea how expensive it all was. So I feel the immense relief and gratitude, but not like an entrepreneur. Maybe I'm missing out. I could have haggled over maybe one fewer course of chemo which would have saved money and she might still have got away with it.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
As the US has seen with voucher based education, voucher based healtcare will only ever be of benefit to the rich.
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The UK equivalent would be Thatcher telling us what we wanted was choice. A choice of schools, a choice of hospitals. It took a lot of people too long to realise what we wanted was good schools and good hospitals so we didn't have to fight each other to avoid the bad ones.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
As the US has seen with voucher based education, voucher based healtcare will only ever be of benefit to the rich.
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From before your time but Cain's sarcastic post is still valid about healthcare markets.

Cain said:
If we had an actual free market, then most of these problems would disappear. First of all, in a free market there are no barriers to entry, and this assumption holds up particularly well in the case of health-care where anyone can start a local business. All of this competition means lower prices for you (and lower profits for business). Second, consumers are informed (no asymmetries); they're not swayed by silly superstitions and they don't need something like ten years of training. Moreover, bad decisions are perfectly reversible and consumers have lots of time to shop around. Third, indivisible benefits and costs: not happenin' here. When other people get sick and die, it's on them. Some people -- yes, I'm talking about communists -- like those two old white guys in the video -- will complain about how much is lost in "worker productivity" on account of days missed due to tooth aches and chest pains. Well, boohoo. Fourth: the children. It's actually better if fewer kids see doctors because it toughens them up. It's like my doctor says, "what doesn't kill you can only make you stronger." This may sound counter-intuitive to you. If it does sound counter-intuitive, then you're stupid, and you need to get your "duh-face" checked out... if you can. Fif: no government bureaucrats. Instead of decisions made by some poindexter in Washington who thinks he knows more than your doctor, under a free market they'll be made by some business major in Connecticut who doesn't care if he knows better than your doctor.
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Call in the troops to solve declining shopper footfall in the face of online shopping.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
The Miracle Mile Shopping Center in Chicago, once considered our Nation's BEST, now has a more than 28% vacancy factor, and is ready to call it quits unless something is done about the murder and crime, which is prevalent throughout the City. CALL IN THE TROOPS, FAST, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! "Just the News"
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'Bells and whistles' He doesn't know what that phrase means does he?

Trump: "They had hundreds of countries, companies working on it and they were spending billions of dollars and when they turned it on it didn't work. That's why you had a helicopter crashing into an airplane. If we had a great system, bells and whistles would've started going off."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1987991039475421396
 
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