theprestige
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Transwomen are not Women - Part 15
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Emily's Cat
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I could see an argument that there should be an optional marker on IDs for gender. If we want sex to remain natal sex on IDs (which I prefer for a host of reasons including medical ones), there will end up being a small group of people who will face problems as a result. Not a ton, sure, but still. Much as I dislike their posting, and much as I acknowledge that the filters are far overused... there's a plausible argument that India Willoughby is passing enough that an ID that only says "M" could present challenges in some settings. Allowing an optional gender marker of "F" would allow the identity-checker to go through the process of "Male? Huh... oh, yes I see, okay, Trans" and just move on with their day.
It would also work the other way, of course. You'd get the Izzards of the world where everyone know that they're male, and having that "F" for optional gender at least allows the identity-checker to say "Ahh, yep, male who slaps on a ton of bad make-up, but still male".
smartcooky
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In many cases, you don't even need a face.
I am a frequent dog walker. When walking along the boardwalk at my local beach, I can see someone 50m-100m ahead of me, wearing jeans and a T-shirt, and I can immediately tell 100% of the time whether that is a man or a woman....
a. body shape
b. how they walk.
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d4m10n
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Not sure how to test this claim; most everyone I've known tends to dress and groom themselves fairly consistently either one way or another.
You can tell which half of the closet is mine and which half is my wife's just by looking at the clothing on the hangars.
You can tell which sink is which because one of them has hair curlers and one of them has an electric head shaver.
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
It's estimated that there are 12 million transwomen worldwide. Out of a population of 8 billion, a gender marker would address a minor problem encountered by ~0.15% of the population at most.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Yup, pretty much
".... the phrase is most often used in greentext to make fun of people who use trolling as an excuse to back down from their opinion...."
Well now, that DOES look awfully familiar doesn't it?
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
You each have your own bathroom sink?
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
If gender correlated with appearance, people wouldn't have to declare preferred pronouns. We could tell their gender just by looking at them. But no, the whole point of preferred pronouns is that it's rude to assume their gender correlates with their appearance.
The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realize that sex is well-correlated with appearance, and that declaring preferred pronouns is supposed to override that correlation.
Which is to say, the claim has already been tested, and the results are in: Gender does not correlate with appearance. Which makes sense; a lot of effort was put into gender-queering the usual stereotypes and expectations, not too long ago.
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Rolfe
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Emily's Cat
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Just to mollify those few who aren't up to speed here... Let's also acknowledge that the correlation/causality issue is in play too. Perverts exist, have always existed, and have always presented a risk to females and to children at a might higher level than they to do males.
So... does identifying as transgender cause sexual deviance? Or is it the other way around - does an innate tendency toward deviance result in these males identifying as trans, in part because it provides them an easily exploitable loophole? Something else to consider is that paraphilias very often cluster, so someone with one pre-existing paraphilia is more likely to develop another paraphilia as well. They're very similar to addiction, without the physical dependency aspect. Feeding an addiction makes it worse; feeding a paraphilia exacerbates it. Having an addiction to one substance increases the likelihood of developing an addiction to another substance; having one paraphilia increases the likelihood of developing other paraphilias.
ETA: For those who don't (won't?) comprehend that this isn't being universally applied, I'm not even remotely saying that all transgender people have a paraphilia. I'm saying that at least some have a paraphilia, and it's a paraphilia that is associated with sexual offending. And based on crime stats, it certainly appears that there's a higher incidence of sexual offending among transgender identifying males than among other males, both of which are orders of magnitude higher than the rate among females.
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Emily's Cat
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Won't lie, I absolutely LOVE not having to share a sink with my spouse. I have a much cleaner, well organized sink area, with a whole lot less hair products scattered about.You each have your own bathroom sink?
d4m10n
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The Pros and Cons of Double Vanity Sinks
What’s a double sink vanity? It’s two sinks installed in your bathroom, usually into the cabinets. The vanity countertop accommodates the two sinks, and they’re typically all connected together in the same slab of counter. It’s two sinks, two faucets, and double the convenience.
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smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
This is probably the most accurate front cover of a Glamour magazine in years... probably ever...
"The actual title is within the name - dolls is what they are...
they're caricatures of women... they've got the fake nails, the
fake boobs, the fake hair, the fake eyelashes, and they just
think that is what being a woman is"
- Samara Gill on TalkTV show "Plank of the Week"
Straight-talking Samara Gill has a great "Aussie Sheila" way of just calling out and taking down the bull-◊◊◊◊ just with a few words.
Of course, as funny as her comments are, anyone who can think for themselves knows what the reality actually is...
"The actual title is within the name - dolls is what they are...
they're caricatures of women... they've got the fake nails, the
fake boobs, the fake hair, the fake eyelashes, and they just
think that is what being a woman is"
- Samara Gill on TalkTV show "Plank of the Week"
Straight-talking Samara Gill has a great "Aussie Sheila" way of just calling out and taking down the bull-◊◊◊◊ just with a few words.
Of course, as funny as her comments are, anyone who can think for themselves knows what the reality actually is...
Trausti
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Could you imagine some Viking horde pillaging, searching for the women, and happening upon that?This is probably the most accurate front cover of a Glamour magazine in years... probably ever...
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
.... and wouldn't they be in for a surprise!!
Rolfe
Adult human female
"Receptive homosexuality" in Viking times was liable to get you killed. According to the notes on some ribald flyting passages in my copy of the Volsunga Saga.
Rolfe
Adult human female
This is the clearest explanation I have seen of "Brollygate". The photo in the first tweet shows clearly that the part of the umbrella Susan briefly took hold of was the orange section, whereas the broken part was the green section. Which was obviously broken before she went near it.
Further down the thread there are a couple of short video clips which are even clearer. Harlow was using the umbrella as a sort of magnified "talk to the hand" gesture, swinging it up to cut off contact with anyone who challenged him. He was on a fairly small almost-island, and at one point Susan momentarily took hold of the edge of it, I think to avoid overbalancing into the water. She only touched it on one occasion, and the part she touched was orange. There are some shots from him setting up that show the umbrella was already broken when he unfurled it.
Further down the thread there are a couple of short video clips which are even clearer. Harlow was using the umbrella as a sort of magnified "talk to the hand" gesture, swinging it up to cut off contact with anyone who challenged him. He was on a fairly small almost-island, and at one point Susan momentarily took hold of the edge of it, I think to avoid overbalancing into the water. She only touched it on one occasion, and the part she touched was orange. There are some shots from him setting up that show the umbrella was already broken when he unfurled it.
Rolfe
Adult human female
This is appalling. tl:dr version. Severely mentally ill young man with multiple psychiatric diagoses is imprisoned for attempted murder, the culmination of a long string of violent offences. He's well settled in Perth prison, a male prison, when he finds his inner "Sarah Jane" and demands to be allowed to "live as a woman", while remaining in Perth. Enter the SPS transgender policy. He must be moved to a women's prison, whether he (or the women in that prison!) like it or not.
This was predictably a howling disaster. He was batted around the prison system for a while, including a period living on licence in the community (
), and the proximate cause of his suicide seems to have been a refusal of parole. It's clear, though, that the attempts to force him into a women's prison, where he didn't want to be, and the instability this caused to his psyche, didn't help. One can't help feeling that if he'd simply been allowed to swan around in Perth prison in a dress and heels, he'd have been OK. But really, he should have been in Carstairs the whole time. (Nobody in the SPS seems even to have thought about Carstairs, the "secure hospital for the criminally insane".) The idea that he was allowed into the community is terrifying. But his "transgender" status seems to have overshadowed everything, including his own wishes and the multiple psychiatric illnesses he had been diagnosed with.
This (from the BBC report) was quite a shock to see.
"Too many transgender prisoners"! But they're such a tiny, minuscule, insignificant fraction of the population! How can this be?
This was predictably a howling disaster. He was batted around the prison system for a while, including a period living on licence in the community (
), and the proximate cause of his suicide seems to have been a refusal of parole. It's clear, though, that the attempts to force him into a women's prison, where he didn't want to be, and the instability this caused to his psyche, didn't help. One can't help feeling that if he'd simply been allowed to swan around in Perth prison in a dress and heels, he'd have been OK. But really, he should have been in Carstairs the whole time. (Nobody in the SPS seems even to have thought about Carstairs, the "secure hospital for the criminally insane".) The idea that he was allowed into the community is terrifying. But his "transgender" status seems to have overshadowed everything, including his own wishes and the multiple psychiatric illnesses he had been diagnosed with.This (from the BBC report) was quite a shock to see.
"Too many transgender prisoners"! But they're such a tiny, minuscule, insignificant fraction of the population! How can this be?
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Rolfe
Adult human female
And another one.
www.kentonline.co.uk
If only he had realised that all he had to do was go into a women's changing room to do his flashing, he could have occupied the moral high ground and had these pesky girls charged with a hate crime if they complained...
Flasher banned from alleyways except on bin days
A tutu-wearing pervert who exposed himself to two children must not enter woods near his home or approach lone women.
If only he had realised that all he had to do was go into a women's changing room to do his flashing, he could have occupied the moral high ground and had these pesky girls charged with a hate crime if they complained...
Rolfe
Adult human female
