smartcooky
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You're the only one who's telling lies at the moment.
Transwomen are not Women - Part 15
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Thermal
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Then why did you say...
...when the TRUTH was that the counter protesters had brought the violence to their counter protesting?
Still waiting on credible reporting of these supposed arrests. See below.
You're right on one point- I forgot to attribute it when pasting the quoted section.
You are more typically wrong on it being a breach of the MA, though. I wasn't posting them as my own words or attributing them to anyone else, so not an MA breach. We both know you reported it already, so we'll see if it gets actioned.
GBNews, rated (surprise, surprise!) as extreme right wing and low credibility. You just get funnier with each floundering attempt at credibility.
GB News UK - Bias and Credibility
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In case you and the other guy haven't figured it out yet, I'm riding on your botched line quoted above. If you meant to say "It is the
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Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
It's not that complicated. There was a protest. The Trans Activists brought violence to it.
What's wrong about that statement? It describes pretty much what happened, doesn't it?
And why were you asking about the Scottish police?
What's wrong about that statement? It describes pretty much what happened, doesn't it?
And why were you asking about the Scottish police?
Thermal
August Member
No. There was a trans demonstration in Edinbugh. Anti trans demonstrators brought violence to another event n London. SC tries to make it sound like the trans demonstrators, who were in Scotland, 'brought the violence, as usual'.
Again: SC says the trans demonstrators brought the violence. That would have been at the Scottish event, not the London.
As you say, it's not that complicated.
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Ziggurat
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Thermal
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Sorry, what was that officer's name again?
Or maybe the arrest report from the Met would do?
You know, if it is anywhere near true and not just the usual alt-right horse ◊◊◊◊ that passes for facts ITT.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Nothing you've written here is correct.
There were pro-women's rights demonstrations in both Scotland and London. Pro-Trans counter-protesters brought violence to the one in London.
Thermal
August Member
And we know this how? You seem to keep forgetting that the media cited is of no credibility. I'm still missing the arrest reports or other grown-up reporting of this.
Regarding my delivery: I sometimes worry that I'm really sledgehammering this ◊◊◊◊, and I'm not sure whether to take you seriously that you're not getting it.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Maybe don't post while drunk?
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
There were demonstrations IN BOTH ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ CITIES. THAT IS WHAT THE LINK STATES CLEARLY.
Its not that complicated
... you're lying... again!!
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
The counter protesters WERE TRAs... its not that complicated
And you're be waiting a while. The captured media (thats the media you exclusively listen to) don't report anything that does not comport with their gender ideologically captured agenda
I didn't report it... as I have learned now, its not worth the trouble - you are one of the protected species on this forum.
Live video is unbiased - you can see the arrests happening - unless you think the Daily Mail and GB News set up a fake demonstration somewhere with actors playing the parts of TRAs and Police (and given your rabid, blind trans advocacy on this forum, it wouldn't surprise me at all if that is exactly what you believe).GBNews, rated (surprise, surprise!) as extreme right wing and low credibility. You just get funnier with each floundering attempt at credibility.
GB News UK - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
Nope, I meant what I said... "It is the Trans Activists who bring the violence to protests"
Its not that complicated, for the benefit of those who lack the comprehension skills to understand the obvious.
- Trans Activists = anti trans counter protesters
- Protests = those protests to which Trans Activists show up to counter protest
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smartcooky
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London, UK. 1st November, 2025. Metropolitan Police officers arrest a trans rights activist for breach of conditions under s14 Public Order Act during a protest in Victoria Embankment Gardens billed as 'Not The TERFs Not The State We Decide Our Own F
Download this stock image: London, UK. 1st November, 2025. Metropolitan Police officers arrest a trans rights activist for breach of conditions under s14 Public Order Act during a protest in Victoria Embankment Gardens billed as 'Not The TERFs Not The State We Decide Our Own Fate' which was...
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Rolfe
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There were three "199 days" protest demos on Saturday, all organised by pro-women's groups to demand the implementation of the SC judgment.
The one in Edinburgh passed off without notable incident, because the police did their job (for once) and kept the violent, abusive trans activists who turned up to "counter-protest" well away from the organised women's demo.
The one in Cardiff was unpleasant, because the police (such as they were) turned up in a squad car decorated with pro-trans stickers, which caused some ill-feeling. They allowed the pro-trans mob to get close to the women and shout them down. However I didn't hear about any arrests.
The police in London also did a good job and kept the screaming abusive mob of trans activists away from the women. However, in that case the pro-trans mob were so incensed by not being allowed to disrupt the women's event that they tried to break through the police cordon and clashed with police. This is where there were a couple of arrests, of pro-trans counter-protesters. However they didn't in fact get anywhere near the women, who simply carried on with their event.
And that's it.
The one in Edinburgh passed off without notable incident, because the police did their job (for once) and kept the violent, abusive trans activists who turned up to "counter-protest" well away from the organised women's demo.
The one in Cardiff was unpleasant, because the police (such as they were) turned up in a squad car decorated with pro-trans stickers, which caused some ill-feeling. They allowed the pro-trans mob to get close to the women and shout them down. However I didn't hear about any arrests.
The police in London also did a good job and kept the screaming abusive mob of trans activists away from the women. However, in that case the pro-trans mob were so incensed by not being allowed to disrupt the women's event that they tried to break through the police cordon and clashed with police. This is where there were a couple of arrests, of pro-trans counter-protesters. However they didn't in fact get anywhere near the women, who simply carried on with their event.
And that's it.
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Thermal
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Oh, good. You want to defend your claims. At least for the time being- we all know you defend as long as you think you are winning, then slink away when you realize you are not. Then you resort to gifs borrowed from the slow kids in the back of the class. Let's see how it plays out.
I'd be waiting for credible reporting for a while? You're folding like a pup tent faster than usual.
I see. So there is no credible reporting on this event at all.
Lol, oh hell yeah. The mod team just loves them some Thermal, and doesn't actively wish I would find some other corner of the internet to amuse myself on. Ya got me there.
Ok, here we go, back to your claims, finally. What is your evidence for three arrests, besides your Seig Heil websites saying so? The latest one has a Breaking News banner up right now that claims the BBC is doctoring footage of Trump to make him look bad. Totally journalistic triumphs. Anyone have the Pulitzer nomination hotline number handy?
What is your evidence that these arrests, unreported by credible media (by your concession) were of trans activists, as opposed to, say, the alt right freaks that share your news sources? The oft reported pic shows a guy in a black beanie and shirt. Looks pretty alt right, rather than Rainbow clad.
What do you have besides an ambiguous video and pics showing police briefly scuffling with some unknown person?
Like Rolfe, you post that which reinforces your chosen narrative, and whether or not it is factually true remains a matter of supreme indifference to you.
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Thermal
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Oh looky! An image search that regurgitates the accompanying text of the image. Will technological wonders never cease?London, UK. 1st November, 2025. Metropolitan Police officers arrest a trans rights activist for breach of conditions under s14 Public Order Act during a protest in Victoria Embankment Gardens billed as 'Not The TERFs Not The State We Decide Our Own F
Download this stock image: London, UK. 1st November, 2025. Metropolitan Police officers arrest a trans rights activist for breach of conditions under s14 Public Order Act during a protest in Victoria Embankment Gardens billed as 'Not The TERFs Not The State We Decide Our Own Fate' which was...
I said credible evidence, not repetitions with a new hat.
smartcooky
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Alamy is a British stock photography company.. they deal with photographers requiring protected image rights... no fakes here - you can take what it says in the caption to the bank.
Same goes with Newscom
Trans Counter protest in London, UK - 01 Nov 2025
Metropolitan Police Officers arrest a trans activist who is suspected of breaking section 14 of the public order act. Trans activists held a counter protest in response to a feminist demonstration regarding the high court�s equalities act ruling which they describe as transphobic. Crowds...
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Ziggurat
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Thermal, you're really digging yourself a hole here. Why are you doubling down on the position that if it wasn't reported by leftist press, it didn't happen? That's stupid.
Here's some more stock video for you from the protests. I'm going to call your attention to a few specific ones. The first link is to a whole collection of videos. All subsequent links can be found from this page.
www.gettyimages.com
First up, a clip of the women's rights protesters. Note the absence of people wearing a mask. Maybe I missed one in the back, but pretty much everyone has no face covering. That's going to be important in a moment.
www.gettyimages.com
Now a clip of the pro trans protesters. Note the prevalence of masks. Not everyone is wearing a mask, but it's very common among this crowd. That's quite normal for leftist protesters.
www.gettyimages.com
Finally, a clip of someone being arrested.
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We don't see what triggered the arrest, though my guess is that it was a confrontation with the guy on the left wearing a sign likely to offend the pro-trans contingent. Regardless, though, the person getting arrested is wearing a mask. So are they a women's rights protester, or a pro trans protester? Obviously a pro trans protester. They're wearing a mask & hoodie, the generic attire of leftist protesters. There's an additional clip of this person being hauled away, but it doesn't add much more.
Doubtless you will claim I haven't proven they're a pro-trans protester, or that they did anything wrong. And that's true to a certain extent. But how long do you want to keep doubling down on this claim that we must be lying, rather than admit that maybe it's true? Is any doubt creeping in yet? Can you even concede that it might have happened as claimed?
Here's some more stock video for you from the protests. I'm going to call your attention to a few specific ones. The first link is to a whole collection of videos. All subsequent links can be found from this page.
Getty Images
Getty Images. Find high resolution royalty-free images, editorial stock photos, vector art, video footage clips and stock music licensing at the richest image search photo library online.
First up, a clip of the women's rights protesters. Note the absence of people wearing a mask. Maybe I missed one in the back, but pretty much everyone has no face covering. That's going to be important in a moment.
Getty Images
Getty Images. Find high resolution royalty-free images, editorial stock photos, vector art, video footage clips and stock music licensing at the richest image search photo library online.
Now a clip of the pro trans protesters. Note the prevalence of masks. Not everyone is wearing a mask, but it's very common among this crowd. That's quite normal for leftist protesters.
Getty Images
Getty Images. Find high resolution royalty-free images, editorial stock photos, vector art, video footage clips and stock music licensing at the richest image search photo library online.
Finally, a clip of someone being arrested.
Getty Images
Getty Images. Find high resolution royalty-free images, editorial stock photos, vector art, video footage clips and stock music licensing at the richest image search photo library online.
Doubtless you will claim I haven't proven they're a pro-trans protester, or that they did anything wrong. And that's true to a certain extent. But how long do you want to keep doubling down on this claim that we must be lying, rather than admit that maybe it's true? Is any doubt creeping in yet? Can you even concede that it might have happened as claimed?
Thermal
August Member
No one claimed it was fake. The observation is that it mindlessly regurgitates the accompanying text, without verifying the credibility.
Strike two.
theprestige
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You were fine with media regurgitation when you thought it was foisting the opposite narrative.
Thermal
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I wouldnt accept 'leftist press' as any more credible than your alt right sources. 'Credible' is the qualifier I am requesting. When the source regularly fails fact checks and openly pushes propaganda, they need to present more than "dude, trust me". I'll happily accept their reporting if the reader doesn't need to insert his assumptions to fit the narrative, as you went to lengths to do.
Word. Yet here we are.
Sure. The reporting may well be entirely factual, fot what may be the first time in the sources history. But as low credibility sources, they are not given the benefit of the doubt.
And back atcha: can you even concede that the poorly evidenced claims might *not* have happened as claimed? If so, you seem.pretty one sided in your carpet calling.
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