Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

In an odd coincidence my male friend who is trans called just 20min ago.
Had not heard from him in 3 months or so.
He asked me to marry him (he always does) and about my shoe size (as usual). I asked what he was 'dressed up' as...haha thinking it was a funny question given it is the crossdressers dream holiday. But he was just repetitive...asking if I can go get him and move and leave the state. Then the same story about dressing up in fishnets and meeting guys who hit on him (same exact stories now, every time)
Then I heard him ask for medication at the pharmacy because he was really hurting.

I told him to go to the hospital. I think he really will go and call back in a few hours.
I met him when he was 45, but he is 65 now and cant do all those things he used to do. We were never together but I do care what happens to him.

(I have talked about him in this thread before so it is weird that I'd be here after a break and that he would also call at the same time. But it is Halloween so maybe not so unusual.)

Eta- on his way in an uber he sent me a fake boob shot that is actually hilarious. I has a giant hard nipple on it. The perversion to twist what women are is just so off the mark. he is typing now.... stay tuned.

eta2- to be clear...he agrees with me about the kids and teachers and trans meds and about not demanding speech or special accommodation... he just lives as he does where and when it is ok for him to be 'her'.

eta 3- He went to doctor.. now at sports bar as a girl. Right back into it. I notice a lot of these trans/cross persons label themselves or speak of themselves as "girls" and not as women.
-and that's all for today!
Happy Halloween everyone!
My takeaway on this story is that I want to be on this guy's health plan. In the space of an hour and a half, he went from chatting on the phone in a pharmacy, to going to a hospital/doctor with no appointment, getting treated and back into the bar scene, all on a Friday night Halloween.
 
What are your thoughts on the hordes of males who show proudly wear their shirts and pins advocating for violence against females who won't give way to their wants? Do you have the same level of castigation toward those who opine publicly that females who oppose males in female spaces should be killed, decapitated, punched, raped, etc?
The same as I've said, and repeatedly. I don't agree with the extremists on the TRA side, or any that invoke violence.

You bring up the 'decapitated' thing repeatedly. That was one protester. You do know that one protestor doesn't represent the views of millions, right?
Where's your criticism directed at posters here on ISF who label us transphobic bigots for wanting to keep males out of female spaces and sports? I don't think I've ever seen you give any of them a hard time.
There aren't any here, that I'm seeing. And I don't respond to every freaking comment made by every poster, nor should I be expected to.

Better question: why do you ignore every freaking word I post and project made up bull ◊◊◊◊ on me and expect me to agree that it's what I said?
 
Look, you tend to make blanket statements pretty frequently.
No, i dont. You just keep saying i do.
It's also very frustrating that you just keep dismissing the fetishistic side of this.
I do not. What the data shows is that it is (counterintuitively) very rare. So vanishingly rare that if you used such rare occurances in any other context, you would dismiss them out of hand as noise range aberrations that will occur in any public policy, and cannot be reasonably prevented. The kind of people that do the weird freaky ◊◊◊◊ are doing it with or without policy on their side. This mythical beast that would be a gruesome goblin if only he was allowed to is a figment of the imagination. The real weirdos are doing their weirdo things whether they are allowed to or not, and the behaviors you describe are criminal, and fully prosecutable when caught.

That argument is the dead-on equivalent of saying men cannot work in a school system, because some one in a million freak might slip through the cracks. Consider your argument here:
They share tips with each other about how you can freeze tomato juice then stick it up their backsides so it trickles out as it thaws to simulate a period and they get "bloody" undies to masturbate to.
We went over that one. It came from some unknown screenshot of a chat room from 2003, with three anonymous participants. We cannot even verify if it is real or (as it would seem) another bull ◊◊◊◊ put-on.

Yet here you are, holding it up as if it was verified fact, commonplace and representative. That detracts from any serious discussion, as does the imaginary AGP arguments.

Posters leave this thread in droves, and don't return, because of arguments like this. They are ridiculous. We should be able to talk about this rationally, without resorting to the alt right Twitter twat postings that some here relish in repeating.

You, and others, have made some very persuasive points in this debate, but when you lower yourself to this kind of argument, it detracts mightily from your credibility and your honesty comes into question.

That 2003 anonymous screenshot has dead zero credibility, yet you hold it up as if it is representative. That's why some of us push back. Not because of your better points, but because arguing at that level.of disingenuousness casts doubt on your motivations.

Before we go any further, do you get why your well thought and persuasive arguments are undermined by relying on that kind of bull ◊◊◊◊?
 
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I have more respect for a qualified, experienced psychologist than I have for some random bloke so much in thrall to the trans cult that he wilfully closes his eyes to any evidence that they're not the vulnerable marginalised flowers he fondly imagines he's protecting.
 
You can of course choose to respect whoever you choose, even if they are a bigoted quack whose hubris to diagnose "most" of the trans community as psychopathic would have her laughed out of reputable professional circles.
 
Since I have said directly and dear God repeatedly that I not only don't think that, but have gone into considerable detail about how I don't think that, what's your excuse for lying about my position?
You say you don't believe that, and yet, you keep backing the people who do against the people who don't. So I don't really believe you.
 
Once again, as is always the case, it is the trans activists who bring the violence to protests!


Three people have been arrested after women's rights groups and trans rights activists clashed 199 days after the Supreme Court's transgender ruling.
A series of protests called '199 days later' were organised by pro-women's rights groups in Edinburgh and London on Saturday, sparking counter-demonstrations.
In a collective statement the women demanded the Supreme Court transgender ruling be 'implemented in full' across all institutions in both local and national government.

Why the Daily Mail I hear you ask? Because ideologically captured media like the BBC and the Guardian won't report any of this.
 
And then you forgot what you learned, and started to believe men could be women by dressing as women. And that to believe otherwise was hateful.
Since I have said directly and dear God repeatedly that I not only don't think that, but have gone into considerable detail about how I don't think that...
And yet, whenever people (including me) have said we believed otherwise, you called us tranny-bashing bigots!

So, yeah, you're lying
 
Once again, as is always the case, it is the trans activists who bring the violence to protests!


Three people have been arrested after women's rights groups and trans rights activists clashed 199 days after the Supreme Court's transgender ruling.
A series of protests called '199 days later' were organised by pro-women's rights groups in Edinburgh and London on Saturday, sparking counter-demonstrations.
In a collective statement the women demanded the Supreme Court transgender ruling be 'implemented in full' across all institutions in both local and national government.

Why the Daily Mail I hear you ask? Because ideologically captured media like the BBC and the Guardian won't report any of this.

I have read complaints from people who were there that that headline isn't accurate. It appears that this time, for once (and also in Edinburgh, although not in Cardiff), the police did their job and kept the trannie demonstration away from the women, so that the women could speak and be heard. There were no clashes between women and TRAs. The clashes pictured were between TRAs and police, when the TRAs tried to break through the police cordon to attack the women.
 
Once again, as is always the case, it is the trans activists who bring the violence to protests!
You forgot to check your own citation, yet again. The Mail report says there was a trans demonstration, which sparked a violent counter protest. Even the reporter says one protestor and one counter protestor were confirmed as arrested.

However, someone should tell thr Scottish police about this. They have no record of arrests at a trans protest at all.

"Reports of arrests at an Edinburgh trans protest do not match recent news; however, there was a pro-Palestine protest in Edinburgh in September 2025 where three men were arrested. In a separate, recent event, trans and women's rights groups were involved in separate protests in London, with no arrests reported in Edinburgh for trans-related events. There have been other protests in Edinburgh concerning transgender issues, but none resulted in arrests in the specific timeframe suggested by the query."
Why the Daily Mail I hear you ask? Because ideologically captured media like the BBC and the Guardian won't report any of this.
Ya or if you want to report bull ◊◊◊◊, run with the Daily Mail. They don't care if reporting is true or not, either.

Can you cite arrest records from Scottish Police? Go ahead, I'll wait.
 
The reporting is that this is a man who does not identify as trans. He was in fact in disguise. Also, police did not say anything about looking 'terrifying'; they simply said that due to it being Halloween, they didn't know if this was a costume or his normal dress. The same could be said if he was dressed as a cowboy or in blackface. You don't know how to take appearances around Halloween.

More to the point: what does this article show us? Is this man an activist? Was he demanding to use a women's restroom when he was arrested?

No. The sole point was to make ◊◊◊◊ up to mock and ridicule trans people. Nothing else.

Hey @Emily's Cat, you asked me why I don't challenge posters who argue a pro-trans position (that aren't even addressing me). Are you challenging Rolfe on this blatant bigotry, or any of the dozens of other blatantly bigoted tweetys she posts? Why do you have such a higher standard for me to call out others when you don't hold yourself to that standard?
 
And yet, whenever people (including me) have said we believed otherwise, you called us tranny-bashing bigots!

So, yeah, you're lying
You say you believe otherwise, then post tranny bashing bigotry. That's when I call you a tranny bashing bigot. Pretty consistent, that.
 
You forgot to check your own citation, yet again. The Mail report says there was a trans demonstration, which sparked a violent counter protest. Even the reporter says one protestor and one counter protestor were confirmed as arrested.

No it doesn't. Please quote the story instead of doing your inaccurate summaries. What it actually says is:

"'The "199 Days Later" protest, organised by Grassroots Women, formed up at Parliament Square before concluding with a rally at Richmond Terrace. 'A static counter-protest, led by Trans Kids Deserve Better, took place in Victoria Embankment Gardens. Conditions were put in place under s.14 Public Order Act to prevent serious disruption. Officers made three arrests at the counter-protest, one on suspicion of criminal damage and two for breaching the Public Order Act conditions."

So the arrests were at the counter-protest.

However, someone should tell thr Scottish police about this. They have no record of arrests at a trans protest at all.
Duh. No kidding. This protest wasn't in Scotland.

"Reports of arrests at an Edinburgh trans protest do not match recent news; however, there was a pro-Palestine protest in Edinburgh in September 2025 where three men were arrested. In a separate, recent event, trans and women's rights groups were involved in separate protests in London, with no arrests reported in Edinburgh for trans-related events. There have been other protests in Edinburgh concerning transgender issues, but none resulted in arrests in the specific timeframe suggested by the query."

Oh look, you can use AI! I really think you should tell people you're doing that, though. Unless you're saying that this is an official statement from the police? Strange that you didn't include a link, if so.

Can you cite arrest records from Scottish Police? Go ahead, I'll wait.

Why would the Scottish Police cite arrests at a protest in London? I'll wait.
 
You forgot to check your own citation, yet again. The Mail report says there was a trans demonstration, which sparked a violent counter protest. Even the reporter says one protestor and one counter protestor were confirmed as arrested.
It was not a "trans demonstration" it was a protest by FWS, and it was three people participating the TRA counter protest who were arrested

Gotta Lie
To be a trans ally

However, someone should tell thr Scottish police about this. They have no record of arrests at a trans protest at all.
Hardly surprising since the protest in which the arrests took place was in London

"Reports of arrests at an Edinburgh trans protest do not match recent news; however, there was a pro-Palestine protest in Edinburgh in September 2025 where three men were arrested. In a separate, recent event, trans and women's rights groups were involved in separate protests in London, with no arrests reported in Edinburgh for trans-related events. There have been other protests in Edinburgh concerning transgender issues, but none resulted in arrests in the specific timeframe suggested by the query."
You got that from AI - is it a breach of MA to post AI sourced material without specifying you have done so.

Ya or if you want to report bull ◊◊◊◊, run with the Daily Mail. They don't care if reporting is true or not, either.
Except of course, it IS true. There are videos and pictures

and this...


Can you cite arrest records from Scottish Police? Go ahead, I'll wait.
The protest was in London
You really have to stop lying about stuff the rest of us can easily check on. You are making a complete fool of yourself.

ETA: Oh, and get some geography lessons sometime (or just look at a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ map!!)
 
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