Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

Frankly, who cares? The internet is groaning under the weight of evidence of sickening fetishistic behaviour by trans-identified men, and of indoctrination and grooming of children young enough still to believe in the tooth fairy. But the eagerness of the fetishist-apologists to swarm all over one possibly questionable image and denounce it, as if by denouncing this one example the rest of it magically evaporates, is kind of charming.
 
smartcooky said:
You are so obviously missing the point here matey, I have to think its deliberate.
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You made three comments in this exchange, all three dealing entirely with the factual nature of classrooms. If you had another point, you forgot to make it.
smartcooky said:
It doesn't really matter whether or not the subject photo is an actual classroom or just something that someone has mocked up for a photo (and in any case, its impossible to prove either way).
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Then why did you and Ziggaraut assert it as a "fact"?

That's actually the meta thing here, btw: you asserting as "fact" that which is only in your imagination.
smartcooky said:
Anyone who isn't a complete dumb-arse, or with an ounce of brain matter can see what it is meant to represent.
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As you said, to support your "chosen narrative".
smartcooky said:
Even your pathetic, endless nitpickery over your claims about the detail that ought, or ought not, to be in the photo tells me that even YOU know exactly what it is meant to represent i.e. it makes the point perfectly well regardless.
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Oddly, it did. It made the point that you literally can't distinguish facts from your chosen narrative.
smartcooky said:
And that point is that children are being indoctrinated by a gender ideology captured education system and the captured individuals within it.
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"Chosen narrative" ahoy, matey!
smartcooky said:
And yes, in answer to your next question
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Why the hell would I ask such a question? A) I dont care, B) it has nothing to do with the cureent discussion, and C) coulda bloody well guessed the answer anyway.
 
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Thermal said:
You made three comments in this exchange, all three dealing entirely with the factual nature of classrooms. If you had another point, you forgot to make it.

Then why did you and Ziggaraut assert it as a "fact"?

That's actually the meta thing here, btw: you asserting as "fact" that which is only in your imagination.

As you said, to support your "chosen narrative".

Oddly, it did. It made the point that you literally can't distinguish facts from your chosen narrative.

"Chosen narrative" ahoy, matey!

Why the hell would I ask such a question? A) I dont care, B) it has nothing to do with the cureent discussion, and C) coulda bloody well guessed the answer anyway.
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I'm kinda surprised that the first picture shows not one, but two overhead projectors.

I've been assured that those things are so 'old-school' that they went down with the Ark.

:)
 
Rolfe said:
Frankly, who cares?
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You should, since you posted it, and we should, if you are posting bull ◊◊◊◊ over and over.
Rolfe said:
The internet is groaning under the weight of evidence of sickening fetishistic behaviour by trans-identified men, and of indoctrination and grooming of children young enough still to believe in the tooth fairy.
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Which, like this one, often turn out to be entirely fictional. So each gets looked at till we find out how much of your "preponderance of evidence" is in fact made up.

Rolfe said:
But the eagerness of the fetishist-apologists to swarm all over one possibly questionable image and denounce it, as if by denouncing this one example the rest of it magically evaporates, is kind of charming.
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No, we look at each post in turn, till we realize that the "mountain of evidence" isn't real at all.

BTW, sounds like you already verified, as some of us did, that it was in fact a lie, and the guy is not a teacher, nor is that a classroom. So suddenly you want to change the subject when a poster questions you on your post.
 
If you think all trans-identifying men are sweet darlings who never do anything even slightly questionable, and every single one of the appalling reports is fabricated, I'll leave you to your bubble.
 
"All". "Never do anything". "Every single one". I just love how you guys go immediately to ridiculous extremes at the drop of a hat.

I don't even disagree with you on a lot of this. I just value actual truth a bit more.
 
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TRAs are so thoroughly captured and brainwashed by the ideology that they are truly incapable of even considering anything that does not comport with the indoctrinated narrative.
 
We noticed.

I see Kirstie Allsop was getting stick for her continual insistance that women should just accept men in dresses in women's toilets, and then in the middle of it all she suddenly said that she absolutely had never believed that men should be in women's sports or prisons or changing rooms. Something is going to blow up in her face and I am absolutely here for that.
 
If you want to see how nasty the Left can get in protecting the dolls, check out Amanda Marcotte's latest drivel. She starts with a bit of dishonesty (no surprise):

On paper, former swimmer Riley Gaines is a puzzling choice for MAGA’s appointed “victim” of trans people. Gaines has built an entire career on a single incident when she was a college swimmer, when she tied for fifth place during the 200-yard freestyle at the NCAA swimming championship in 2022.

As a senior at the University of Kentucky, she finished in the middle of the pack with Lia Thomas, who had drawn national attention for being trans. Logically, Gaines’s woe-is-me tale doesn’t make much sense as a moral outrage over trans women in sports. Four other swimmers outswam Thomas, which seems to be proof against conservative claims that trans women have an unbeatable advantage.
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Marcotte completely ignores Thomas' win in the 500-meter freestyle at the same 2022 NCAA championships which sort of undermines the notion that he didn't have an advantage.

Her argument appears to be that the current trans "panic" is like the satanic panic of the 1980s, which she claims was touched off by films like Rosemary's Baby and the Exorcist. She brings in a few pull quotes from right-wing folks you've never heard of:

In a recent appearance on Fox News, Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., argued that Netflix is using mind control techniques to turn children trans, attributing it to “demonic” forces “from the pits of hell.” Republican Florida state representative Webster Barnaby accused trans people who testified against an anti-trans bill of being literal “demons and imps” who only “pretend that you are part of this world.” MAGA influencer Seth Gruber blamed Charlie Kirk’s murder on demons who enter individuals through the “ideology of trans.”
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But her real focus is Riley Gaines, who is too short to be a swimmer and wears too-girly clothes:

Wittingly or not, Gaines seems to understand that her ability to play the “victim” of these supposedly demonic trans forces depends on presenting herself as girlish. She favors fluffy lace, pink outfits. Despite promoting her athleticism, she avoids being seen as strong and capable, preferring sports photos that emphasize how “cute” and “lil” her clothes are. Gaines and her MAGA audience love to talk about how petite she is; in June, she even posted a video of her much-taller husband measuring her to “prove” she’s only 5 feet 5 inches tall. Since female swimmers, like their male counterparts, tend to be tall, the video only served to make Gaines look childish and came at the expense of her athletic image. Even her purported ambition — to have a swimming trophy — can be seen as childlike, especially as she never pursued a post-collegiate career as a professional swimmer.
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Hard to believe that paragraph comes from a feminist.
 
Hercules56 said:
Just because I decide 3 years from now that I am a puppy doesnt mean I should be able to spend time at the animal shelter.
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Puppyness seemed to me only weakly analogous to the main topic, but that was before my eyes were opened by Jay Szpilka.

Here, my analysis of puppygirl culture both aligns itself, and departs from the work being done on tranimalities. This field thinks trans through the lens of animal studies and the broader affinity between transness and animality (Chen 2012; Colebrook 2015; Hayward 2008; Hird 2008; Seymour 2015). The hierarchised human-animal dichotomy is a key theme in puppygirl culture, and the way through which the pleasures and desires of (in)humanity become accessible. Similarly to tranimal perspectives, puppygirl media both engage with, and refuse to honour a hierarchical worldview in which being human is seen as both intrinsically superior and desirable compared to being animal, while also blurring the putatively fundamental distinction between humanity and animality (Lemke 2021). However, while puppygirl media share tranimalities’ interest in the liveable possibilities afforded by trans (in)humanities, the ‘puppy’ of puppygirl remains a ‘girl’, preferably in a relationship to a more conventionally ‘human’ owner, and thus does not necessarily desire a wholesale abandonment of the human/animal distinction. After all, her desire is to be located against the human, but not without a human.​

 
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