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How Can We Make the Skeptical Content in Pop Culture Stick? (Using K-Pop Demon Hunters as an Example)

Yeah, because the education system sucks even at what it's actually trying to do. Getting educators to teach skepticism would first require that educators themselves learn it and learn how to model it. That's a pretty long row to hoe.
Being a teacher is hard. In this country it requires at least a Bachelor of Education, accreditation with the state education department, and a Working With Children check. This is where the relevant information needs to be injected.
 
Have the story be sympathetic to the person learning the lesson.

Alternatively, have a belief in woo cause the downfall of an unlikeable character.
Good ideas, these.

Also: Belief in woo causes a downfall of a LIKABLE character, who then has to rise above what happened. That might be more interesting than a villian failing because of woo.

Yeah, because the education system sucks even at what it's actually trying to do. Getting educators to teach skepticism would first require that educators themselves learn it and learn how to model it. That's a pretty long row to hoe.
That is kinda a good point. A few teachers I know ain't exactly the sharpest of minds, it seems. Though, I ALSO certainly know a bunch of teachers who ARE champion critical thinkers, as well; it's just not a necessary skill for the job, apparently.

Perhaps critical thinking can be taught as a class subject by specialized teachers, similar to how sciences are taught.
 
To change the topic just a little: Are there any other good examples of critical thinking moments in any recent pop culture products, that anyone can think of, in movies, TV shows, music, etc.? I would like to take apart any other examples we can find, if possible.

Surely, KPDH can't be the only thing around with such a scene in it, right?!
 
To change the topic just a little: Are there any other good examples of critical thinking moments in any recent pop culture products, that anyone can think of, in movies, TV shows, music, etc.? I would like to take apart any other examples we can find, if possible.

Surely, KPDH can't be the only thing around with such a scene in it, right?!
On YouTube:

Bright Sun Travels - critical thinking about value for money when booking a hotel room or an ocean cruise.

Eddie Burback - critical thinking about pop culture and social media topics of interest to Millennials and Gen Z.

LIndsay Ellis recently did a video essay on Yoko Ono that demonstrated a lot of critical thinking about the usual assumptions we make about Yoko Ono.

Jenny Nicholson recently did a very engaging video essay about the Disney Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser Hotel Experience
TM. Again with a lot of critical thinking.

Drew Gooden and Gabi Belle also do a lot of Commentary YouTube, aimed at critical review of pop culture and social media subjects.

I think all of these people/channels do a good job of encouraging you to assume less, think more, pay more attention, and make your own informed decisions about things.

They're not giving seminars on how to critical think, but they're (in my opinion) modeling what that kind of mindset looks like in practice.
 
The answer to the OP isn't using social media to advance a skeptical mind-set, it's to reshape the culture to value education, and look down on stupidity. In the 1960s and 1970s public schools were all about science thanks to the Space Program, and the birth of the ecology revolution. Today that's all flipped. Stupid people are cool, contrarians get clicks and views, conspiracy theories run wild, and education, and science have been shunted into a distant corner.
 
On YouTube:

I know there are a lot of YouTube channels that promote critical thinking, and critical thinking specifically about pop culture.

But, I am more interested in popular entertainment products that happen to have some critical thinking elements in them, or at least try to. Movies and TV shows, mostly. Perhaps popular video games and music could have such things as well.

One possible example someone gave to me was the Wicked movies, where The Wizard is clearly a charlatan; and perhaps some lessons about detecting such con artists could be extracted from that... but I feel as though that might be a bit of a stretch.

Jenny Nicholson recently did a very engaging video essay about the Disney Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser Hotel Experience
TM. Again with a lot of critical thinking.
That video, on her channel, seems to be about a year old, not recent. Unless you found something newer than I did. I have, indeed, watched quite a few of her videos in the past.

(Though, the point is moot, since that's not what I was looking for, for this thread, anyway.)
 
There's a UK crime drama called Whitstable Pearl which recently had an episode in which the amateur detective received an offer of help from a psychic about the disappearance of a child. There was a sceptical response throughout, and it didn't even have the usual "maybe there might be something in it after all" bit at the end.

Spoilered in the unlikely event someone cares:

The psychic is involved in the kidnapping.



Season 3, episode 2.
 
I know there are a lot of YouTube channels that promote critical thinking, and critical thinking specifically about pop culture.

But, I am more interested in popular entertainment products that happen to have some critical thinking elements in them, or at least try to. Movies and TV shows, mostly. Perhaps popular video games and music could have such things as well.

One possible example someone gave to me was the Wicked movies, where The Wizard is clearly a charlatan; and perhaps some lessons about detecting such con artists could be extracted from that... but I feel as though that might be a bit of a stretch.


That video, on her channel, seems to be about a year old, not recent. Unless you found something newer than I did. I have, indeed, watched quite a few of her videos in the past.

(Though, the point is moot, since that's not what I was looking for, for this thread, anyway.)
The reason I recommended YouTube is because that's where a lot of younger people are going for their content.
 
The reason I recommended YouTube is because that's where a lot of younger people are going for their content.
Yes, but unfortunately it's so dilute that it's unlikely that a great many of those younger people will see the skeptical channels rather than the Minecraft let's-plays. Which is why we are discussing the skeptical content of popular mainstream movies and TV, where it's likely that a lot more of those people will see it.

It'd be great if there could be more skeptical content in the Marvel franchise for example, but unfortunately that's already riddled with magic.
 
The Wizard of Oz is not really recent pop culture, although the Wicked movies are giving it some new attention. But, it is still popular. So, using the Professor Marvel, from the beginning of the movie, is a good way to introduce how cold reading works. Probably a better fit for what I am looking for, than the more recent Wicked movies.

There's a UK crime drama called Whitstable Pearl which recently had an episode in which the amateur detective received an offer of help from a psychic about the disappearance of a child. There was a sceptical response throughout, and it didn't even have the usual "maybe there might be something in it after all" bit at the end.
That could, very well, be another relatively recent example!

The reason I recommended YouTube is because that's where a lot of younger people are going for their content.
Just because YouTube, itself, is popular, doesn't mean critical thinking channels on it are super popular. Unfortunately, the "brain rot" ones seem to be the ones doing the best on that platform.
 
I know there are a lot of YouTube channels that promote critical thinking, and critical thinking specifically about pop culture.

But, I am more interested in popular entertainment products that happen to have some critical thinking elements in them, or at least try to. Movies and TV shows, mostly. Perhaps popular video games and music could have such things as well.

One possible example someone gave to me was the Wicked movies, where The Wizard is clearly a charlatan; and perhaps some lessons about detecting such con artists could be extracted from that... but I feel as though that might be a bit of a stretch.


That video, on her channel, seems to be about a year old, not recent. Unless you found something newer than I did. I have, indeed, watched quite a few of her videos in the past.

(Though, the point is moot, since that's not what I was looking for, for this thread, anyway.)
Maybe a Star Wars series in which the real way Darth Vader destroyed the Jedi was by revealing that all their "Force" techniques were just some Yellow Bamboo/chi master nonsense.

They could cast Stephen Segall as Mace Windu without telling him what's actually going to happen.
 
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Just because YouTube, itself, is popular, doesn't mean critical thinking channels on it are super popular. Unfortunately, the "brain rot" ones seem to be the ones doing the best on that platform.
That's true. Going back and re-reading your OP, I realized there's no cognizable call to action. The thread title implies one, but... What are you actually asking for?

Your thread title suggests you're asking for ways to make skeptical content stick in pop culture. But your example isn't an example of how to do that.

Your OP asks for examples of critical thinking in pop culture, and you emphasize the most universally popular examples. But these are already universally popular. If the skeptical lessons in them aren't sticking for audiences, what's the point of bringing them up? Are you asking for movies to show your kids? Movies you can use as examples in a classroom, because they're likely to be familiar to all the students?

The channels I recommended are all pretty popular, as YouTubers measure these things. And they're popular because they're engaging content on a variety of topics, not because they're seminars on critical thinking. If you're looking for content that young people might enjoy, that also models critical thinking, these are the channels I'd recommend. Watch how Jenny Nicholson approaches a subject like the Galactic Starcruiser Hotel, or how Eddie Burback interrogates the ethics of the Las Vegas Sphere. You'll have fun, you'll learn something, and you'll see an example of applied critical thinking in action.

So I'm not clear on what you're actually asking for here. My answer to the thread title is basically: We can make the skeptical content in pop culture stick by taking over the means of production. Get involved in the education system, which is how new citizens are produced, and modify the curriculum to meet this goal.
 
I come across skeptical thinking in entertainment all the time - not least in comedy - for instance this great one-liner at 3:00-->:
A Great Reason to Not Be Religious Anymore - Anthony Jeselnik (Comedy Central Stand-Up, Sep 2, 2019 - 4:26 min.)
Anthony Jeselnik determines that being a mother is the second hardest job and shares his girlfriend’s compelling reason for ditching her family’s religious beliefs. (Contains strong language.)
I see the same trend in most of the comedians I watch, but until very recently (this month) I hadn't heard about the rift in the comedy world between Rogan cult centered around the Mothership comedy club in Austin and the rest of the (U.S.) comedy world. I wasn't even aware that Rogan was supposed to be a comedian. He's incredibly ignorant and not funny at all.
I had also never heard of Tony Hinchcliffe before he appeared at Trump's Madison Square Garden rally with 'jokes' about Puerto Rico and immigrants and didn't know that he was part of the Rogan/MAGA cult.

So I don't know: Do those guys even dare poke fun at anything other that what they consider to be woke?
Anthony Jeselnik attacks Joe Rogan (Anthony Jeselnik short on YouTube, 1:30 min.)
Why Tony Hinchcliffe Hates Anthony Jeselnik (American Redact on YouTube, Mar 31, 2025 - 14:28 min.)
 
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My answer to the thread title is basically: We can make the skeptical content in pop culture stick by taking over the means of production. Get involved in the education system, which is how new citizens are produced, and modify the curriculum to meet this goal.
This is one of those things that is much easier said than done. It's a little like the old Monty Python sketch How to Do It (YouTube, 1 min.)
One problem is this:
Yes, Prager U Wants to Indoctrinate Your Kids. But That's Not Really the Point (The Nation)
PragerU’s Plan to Red Pill Our Kids (Hollywood Reporter, May 23, 2025)

Videos from Prager U could be used in a course on critical thinking, but that would be contrary to the purpose of those videos and probably get teachers fired if they attempted to do so.
 
This is one of those things that is much easier said than done.
Of course it is. But it helps to actually try.

Maybe it's different in Denmark, but in the US Prager U isn't making it any more difficult to get involved in the education system.

Videos from Prager U could be used in a course on critical thinking, but that would be contrary to the purpose of those videos and probably get teachers fired if they attempted to do so.
At least Prager U is actually trying. But they're not the issue. The issue is that the current people involved in the education system - the teachers, the administrators, the academics - have entrenched a curriculum that doesn't teach critical thinking in any meaningful way. Trying to change the subject to Prager U doesn't address that issue. Trying to find pop culture ephemera that show some semblance of critical thinking application in at least one scene doesn't address that issue. Wringing one's hands from the sidelines does nothing to address that issue. What addresses that issue is getting involved in policy-making, or getting involved in the system itself.
 
So I'm not clear on what you're actually asking for here. My answer to the thread title is basically: We can make the skeptical content in pop culture stick by taking over the means of production. Get involved in the education system, which is how new citizens are produced, and modify the curriculum to meet this goal.
It looks like you're advocating for a standardised National Curriculum. Isn't that Federal government overreach? Is education not part of the States' responsibilities?
 

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