Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

smartcooky said:
Yup
What she said was ON THE BLOODY VIDEO for all to see.
How she reacted was On THE BLOODY VIDEO for all to see.
How she was taken to task by the interviewer was ON THE BLOODY VIDEO for all to see.

These are undeniable, observable facts, yet you all deny what you can see with your own eyes.

She WAS reported to the Police, for what she said (yes, she was also reported for other things, and to other agencies but those are not relevant to the claim)
The Police DID investigate her for what she said. They THEMSELVES confirmed this in a statement.

These are also undeniable facts, therefore, I consider my response valid.

Rant warning: IMO, this thread has turned into left wing loony echo chamber full of posters slapping each other on the back in congratulations for their mutual blindness. "1984" was a warning against authoritarianism, one that you are all brushing off... but is happening right now. Freedom of speech and expression is being eroded world wide... it's happening in your country on the left with Labour and Starmer, it's happening on the right in the US with Republicans and The Fat Orange Turd, but you are all too blinded by your own respective political tribalism to accept this. Starmer and Labour are already demanding Apple (iOS) and Google (Android) provide them with back door keys to the encrypted data on ALL phones. (Apple have told them to pound sand). With those keys the government, whoever it is, will be able see everything on your phone...photos, videos, emails, texts, messages, bank and credit card details and location. Say something bad about the government, and they will be able to turn your life off with a metaphorical flick of the switch. Government will say that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, but you left wingers should be asking yourselves if you want a Reform government under Farage to have that power!?

Y'all are sleepwalking into an authoritarian surveillance state - you're like a bunch of frogs in a pot of water - by the time you realise something's wrong, it will be too late.
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Rather relevant to certain posters here spouting about "Free Speech".

As @P.J. Denyer mentioned is in another thread.

There is a NYT investigation into links between Farage and Reform Ltd and a very well funded and nasty American anti-abortion group

An A.D.F. [Alliance Defending Freedom, a far right, conservative, USAian Xian group pushing a pro-white, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic and anti-abortion agenda] lawyer testified alongside Mr. Farage in the hearing, together building a case against what they saw as growing government censorship in Europe. A.D.F. officials have also quietly arranged briefings in Britain with visiting congressional leaders. They brokered a secret meeting between Mr. Farage and top State Department officials in London. And in private briefings, they have supplied the Trump administration with attack lines that cast the British government as hostile to free speech.
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Government Censorship to them seems to be anything that restricts them pushing their agenda of discrimination and hatred.

ETA: oops ...
 
Hercules56 said:
I'm still trying to understand how anyone in their right mind could think that a 500' no-protestor zone around abortion clinics is at all reasonable.
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Because some of us carry more about traumatised women that the hurt feelings of protesters.
Hercules56 said:
It's not. Its the opposite of reasonable and shows little regard to Free Speech.
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It's a reasonable restriction on free speech.
Hercules56 said:
Arresting someone for posting on Instagram, "◊◊◊◊ islam, ◊◊◊◊ palestine, ◊◊◊◊ muslims", is also unreasonable.
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But arrest, imprisonment and harassment are fine for those who criticise your Rapist-in-Chief and his Tantrums.
:rolleyes:
 
plague311 said:
mmMMmMm the fresh smell of being chastised in the morning.
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Alas I was in a hurry this morning, it'll have to wait until tonight....
plague311 said:
Why is it every time someone has any point to make about free speech they immediately bring up "1984"? lol. It's like an adjacent Godwin.
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Lack of willingness and ability to think for themselves? Slippery slope fallacy?
 
catsmate said:
Because some of us carry more about traumatised women that the hurt feelings of protesters.
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All women who work or are patients at abortion clinics, are traumatized??

I'd love to see your evidence for this.


catsmate said:
It's a reasonable restriction on free speech.
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I'd love to see how a jury in the UK rules on this. Do you guys have Jury Nullification for laws deemed to be unjust or wrong?

catsmate said:
But arrest, imprisonment and harassment are fine for those who criticise your Rapist-in-Chief and his Tantrums.
:rolleyes:
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This thread is not about AMERICA. But no I absolutely do not support Trump's Fascism-creap and attacks on Freedom of Speech and Press.
 
Hercules56 said:
All women who work or are patients at abortion clinics, are traumatized??
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I've never had an abortion myself but women I trust inform me that having an abortion can be very traumatic. Not only that, having to run the gauntlet of protestors baying for your blood just to get into the clinic can be traumatic.

Hercules56 said:
Please lay off the misogyny.
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You need to look that word up Mr "I want the right to traumatise women".
 
jeremyp said:
...You need to look that word up Mr "I want the right to traumatise women".
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Whatever..

I have called for reasonable harrassment, disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct laws to be enforced.

YOU seem to not want to enforce them, you just want to ban ALL free speech within 500' from an abortion clinic, be it civil or not.

Cuz authoritarianism always works out sooooo well.

;)
 
jeremyp said:
I've never had an abortion myself but women I trust inform me that having an abortion can be very traumatic. Not only that, having to run the gauntlet of protestors baying for your blood just to get into the clinic can be traumatic...
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Abortion clinic employees are not getting an abortion. Therefore they are not in a condition of traumatized.
 
Hercules56 said:
All women who work or are patients at abortion clinics, are traumatized??

I'd love to see your evidence for this.
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Another pathetic strawman. Grow up.
Hercules56 said:
I'd love to see how a jury in the UK rules on this.
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Go ahead. There have been successful prosecutions.
Hercules56 said:
Do you guys have Jury Nullification for laws deemed to be unjust or wrong?
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I'm not in UKia. But it does exist.
Hercules56 said:
This thread is not about AMERICA. But no I absolutely do not support Trump's Fascism-creap and attacks on Freedom of Speech and Press.
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And yet you insist on comparing your views on "Free Speech" between the countries.....
 
catsmate said:
Another pathetic strawman. Grow up.

Go ahead. There have been successful prosecutions.

I'm not in UKia. But it does exist.

And yet you insist on comparing your views on "Free Speech" between the countries.....
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No I do not. All my comments in this thread are about Free Speech in the UKia.
 
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