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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Matthew Best said:
letmegooglethat.com

Speshul

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Speshul' themselves.
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I tried that but couldn't find any political or ideological definition that seemed to fit into the post.

ETA: Hang on - was he using a "humor" (note no second u) spelling of "special"? :eggembarrassed:
 
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Ivor the Engineer said:
No mention of any people being the target of physical violence, only damage to buildings and property.

So far there seems to be a qualitative difference between PA and an exemplar terrorist group such as the IRA.
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PA is not a terrorist group. They aren't even a group.

Their proscription is clearly just an attempt to silence dissent against Israeli war crimes. It wont work.
 
smartcooky said:
Stop being obtuse. You know exactly what I mean


Firstly, people complaining about the illegal immigrants are having their free speech suppressed, so its topic-related.

They aren't asylum seekers.
1. Asylum seekers are people who flee a country, usually their own, because they are subject to political and/or religious and/or ethnic persecution in that country
2. When an asylum seeker reaches a safe country (one that will not persecute them for these things) their search for asylum ends at that point...
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UN Treaty on Refugees says nothing of the sort. Asylum seekers are under no obligation to end their search for asylum once they reach the first "safe country".
 
smartcooky said:
Harry Miller was arrested for misgendering his stalker.


Of course, as you keep pretending is not that case, the process IS the punishment

ETA: And no one should EVER be arrested for speakling biological reality!!

(and for the whingers... this is simply being used as an example where speech becomes ideological, and the ruling party gets to dictate what is, and what is not hate speech, through the prism of their own political bias)


Free Speech is Free Speech no matter where in the world it is defined (unless, of course, you have decided to adopt the US gun lobby argument that US is different from other countries)

Are you arguing that UK is somehow speshul?

I regard Nadine Strossen's arguments to be every bit as valid when applied the UK (and anywhere else for that matter) as they are in the US. But I completely understand why you would rather dismiss them or not have them in the debate - they confront and challenge your perspective don't they!
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Deliberetly misgendering someone should not be a crime.

If this story is true, its simply is more validation for the OP.
 
smartcooky said:
Because they wave English flags, and object to tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming across the channel by the boat load being given free accommodation in hotels as well as free iPhones, iPads and PlayStation consoles. These illigal migrants also get free dental care, free medical care, free prescriptions, eye-tests & glasses or contact lenses, free travel to medical treatment and free sports tickets.

Additionally, they get a £50 weekly allowance and free, taxpayer funded legal aid so that they can fight deportation.

Nice work if you can get it.
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I would advise you broaden your sources of news and information to those that don't mislead or outright lie.

Have you considered the boost to the UK economy from the jobs in the UK manufacturing and service sector created to cater to the whims and desires of the illegal immigrants? Just think of the boost to the economy if we got the immigrants (aka human resources) trained and working!
 
Hercules56 said:
PA is not a terrorist group. They aren't even a group.

Their proscription is clearly just an attempt to silence dissent against Israeli war crimes. It wont work.
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Take that up with Yvette Cooper, as she was she one who proscribed them using the Terrorism Act of 2000, descibing them as a terrorist group.

Not all of us agree with this.
 
Let's assume the OP is correct and freedom of speech in the UK is being eroded. Why? What are the inputs that have led to this?

Over a decade of austerity sold on the belief the UK government can run out of money and that there is some level of government debt beyond which point the UK economy will collapse.

These economic falsehoods lead to:

The slashing of services that hurt the less wealthy and their children far more than those for whom wealth is merely a scorecard. The latter group actually get wealthier in these conditions, while everyone else has their wealth drained away.

The promotion of the idea that what immigrants have provided to them is taken away from someone else, with the implication being the someone else is you and/or your children.

Deal with those and everyone will start being a lot nicer to each other.
 
FYI- there is no such thing in the USA as a domestic terrorist organization. We only have registered international terrorist groups. It is illegal to provide them with material support, but it is not illegal to wave their flag or support them in public.

So no, its not illegal to protest and support in public the KKK, Nazis, Antifa, BLM, Communists, Anarchists, etc. Even though lots of terrorism has been committed in theit names.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Take that up with Yvette Cooper, as she was she one who proscribed them using the Terrorism Act of 2000, descibing them as a terrorist group.

Not all of us agree with this.
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They're just trying to silence pro-Palestine/anti-Israel speech, cuz they know they cant defeat them with ideas and debate. Or maybe they're too lazy to try.
 
Hercules56 said:
FYI- there is no such thing in the USA as a domestic terrorist organization. We only have registered international terrorist groups. It is illegal to provide them with material support, but it is not illegal to wave their flag or support them in public.

So no, its not illegal to protest and support in public the KKK, Nazis, Antifa, BLM, Communists, Anarchists, etc. Even though lots of terrorism has been committed in theit names.
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And you can protest and support all those groups in the UK as well.
 
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