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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

Everyone here knows that we are failing kids and Peter Kyle, the UK's technology secretary, had the balls to admit it:
The technology secretary has apologised to a generation of children who have been let down by governments failing to keep them safe from toxic online content.

www.theguardian.com

Minister apologises to generation of UK children exposed to toxic online content

As new measures to protect young people online come into force, Peter Kyle says politicians were too slow to act
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Poem said:
The overriding harm of 'legal' porn is that children end up watching it. The right thing to do would be to pre-emptively make 100% certain that that cannot happen. As things stand, anyone uploading porn will know there is a good chance they will be 'severely harming' children by doing so.

There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats it's children.
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You have not demonstrated that it is harmful. You have assumed it. Also, I asked you about the harm to adults, not children. Since you want to ban all porn even for those with the legal right to view it.

Poem said:
For some reason you can't be bothered to go back over the thread can you? You also don't want to talk about Pornhub - probably because it is so popular and you got it wrong about them being reputable.
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If you've answered the question before, give me the specific post number and I'll go back. The thread is 78 pages long - of course I'm not going to trawl through the whole thing.

And I answered your question about PornHub (#3075). Now it's time for you to answer my question.
 
Poem said:
Everyone here knows that we are failing kids and Peter Kyle, the UK's technology secretary, had the balls to admit it:
The technology secretary has apologised to a generation of children who have been let down by governments failing to keep them safe from toxic online content.

www.theguardian.com

Minister apologises to generation of UK children exposed to toxic online content

As new measures to protect young people online come into force, Peter Kyle says politicians were too slow to act
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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this is an article about harmful effects of social media
 
Poem said:
Everyone here knows that we are failing kids and Peter Kyle, the UK's technology secretary, had the balls to admit it:
The technology secretary has apologised to a generation of children who have been let down by governments failing to keep them safe from toxic online content.
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Not only do I not know that. I say BS. But if we are, it has nothing, zero, zip to to do with porn.

Furthermore, I will say with conviction. We abuse children by making them go to church or a mosque or synagogue and shove nonsense down their throats. Moron parents that insist that the earth was created in 6 days. That Mohammed flew to the moon on a horse, that the Shroud of Turin is real. That crackers and wine are the body and blood of a dead human and so on.

Porn is a hundred times less harmful than that crap. Ban that first. Then give me a reason, backed by evidence that porn negatively affects people worse than alcohol.
 
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Poem said:
Wrong. You didn't read the article.
Please read it and come back.
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you’re right it was mentioned, i didn’t read it closely enough the first time. there was a large ad where i thought the article ended. but it wasn’t the focus of the article

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i actually agree that social media is toxic for kids, and the porn is an afterthought in that
 
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dirtywick said:
you’re right it was mentioned, i didn’t read it closely enough the first time. there was a large ad where i thought the article ended. but it wasn’t the focus of the article
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The focus is in the title:
Minister apologises to generation of UK children exposed to toxic online content.
 
Poem said:
The focus is in the title:
Minister apologises to generation of UK children exposed to toxic online content.
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porn is a small, narrow sliver of toxic online content imo. as evidenced by the article barely mentioning it.

regulating social media sites would do a great deal on keeping porn on porn sites where it belongs. your hyper focus on porn band is small picture thinking
 
dirtywick said:
porn is a small, narrow sliver of toxic online content imo. as evidenced by the article barely mentioning it.

regulating social media sites would do a great deal on keeping porn on porn sites where it belongs. your hyper focus on porn band is small picture thinking
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Well, the thread is about porn. I'm not denying the other harms.

And you haven't cited any evidence that porn is a small, narrow sliver of toxic online content. Just how popular do you think the likes of Pornhub is these days? As evidenced by the article barely mentioning it? That's zero evidence, obviously. 'Porn' comes under the umbrella term 'toxic online content'.
 
the thread is about culture. you’re the one who refused to examine anything other than porn

anyway it’s your source
 
dirtywick said:
the thread is about culture. you’re the one who refused to examine anything other than porn
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The thread OP focuses on the how porn relates to rape culture.
dirtywick said:
anyway it’s your source
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And you asserted that porn isn't that big a deal.

I'll ask again:
...you haven't cited any evidence that porn is a small, narrow sliver of toxic online content. Just how popular do you think the likes of Pornhub is these days? As evidenced by the article barely mentioning it? That's zero evidence, obviously. 'Porn' comes under the umbrella term 'toxic online content'.
 
I want to know. Exactly how porn damages people. Are we talking physical harm? Does it stunt intellectual development? Does it make people less responsive to others? I want to hear specific claims and evidence to support it. I agree that social media has pitfalls, but that isn't porn.
 
Poem said:
The thread OP focuses on the how porn relates to rape culture.

And you asserted that porn isn't that big a deal.
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i don’t think it is a big deal. it’s a small part of a bigger picture of toxic online culture

I'll ask again:
...you haven't cited any evidence that porn is a small, narrow sliver of toxic online content. Just how popular do you think the likes of Pornhub is these days? As evidenced by the article barely mentioning it? That's zero evidence, obviously. 'Porn' comes under the umbrella term 'toxic online content'.
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as it relates to things like gambling and materialistic influencer culture, cyber bullying, red pilled misogyny and misinformation, i think it’s tiny. minuscule.
 
dirtywick said:
i don’t think it is a big deal. it’s a small part of a bigger picture of toxic online culture

as it relates to things like gambling and materialistic influencer culture, cyber bullying, red pilled misogyny and misinformation, i think it’s tiny. minuscule.
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But no evidence that porn plays a minor part.
 
Poem said:
But no evidence that porn plays a minor part.
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it’s an afterthought in your own source on the dangers of toxic online content, which calls out several other dangers more prominently. in fact i agreed with your source on that.

when i look at something like ryan’s world toy unboxing with 40m subscribers on youtube pushing materialistic ads at toddlers while claiming to be a safe space for kids, that causes me much more concern than pornhub existing on its own adult part of the internet.
 
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