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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

Nobody appears to want to deal with #3,025. According to the FTC, Pornhub should be facing 'crippling financial liabilities' and yet they continue in business.
 
Poem said:
Nobody appears to want to deal with #3,025. According to the FTC, Pornhub should be facing 'crippling financial liabilities' and yet they continue in business.
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And you don't want to deal with #3026, which is a question you have been ignoring for weeks now. Exactly what specific harms are caused by legal viewing of legal porn by adults?
 
arthwollipot said:
And you don't want to deal with #3026, which is a question you have been ignoring for weeks now. Exactly what specific harms are caused by legal viewing of legal porn by adults?
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Dealt with a long time ago. Your assertion that Pornhub is reputable and law-abiding is obviously way off.
 
Poem said:
Nobody appears to want to deal with #3,025. According to the FTC, Pornhub should be facing 'crippling financial liabilities' and yet they continue in business.
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I don't think you'll find anyone in here who would object to giving regulators enough teeth to motivate content hosts to deal with illegal content more seriously.
 
Lithrael said:
I don't think you'll find anyone in here who would object to giving regulators enough teeth to motivate content hosts to deal with illegal content more seriously.
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The Pornhub (et al) tap remains on BECAUSE regulators don't have enough teeth. That you do not see societal will in this is pretty astonishing.
 
In general, toothless or nonexistant regulations on things that it would be broadly popular to have regulations on, are down to moneybags lobbyists rather than a lack of societal will. We'd ALL like to see authorities go after revenge pornographers, scammers and predatory loaners, polluters and contract breakers, and a lot of us would like authorities to go after things like the sprawling shell-company snake oil industry... The problem may involve some amount of 'not enough people have the bandwidth to be upset about this thing in particular' but for the most part the problem is there's money to be made and it's money vs everything else. Not some imagined permissiveness towards illegal material and activity.
 
Lithrael said:
In general, toothless or nonexistant regulations on things that it would be broadly popular to have regulations on, are down to moneybags lobbyists rather than a lack of societal will. We'd ALL like to see authorities go after revenge pornographers, scammers and predatory loaners, polluters and contract breakers, and a lot of us would like authorities to go after things like the sprawling shell-company snake oil industry... The problem may involve some amount of 'not enough people have the bandwidth to be upset about this thing in particular' but for the most part the problem is there's money to be made and it's money vs everything else. Not some imagined permissiveness towards illegal material and activity.
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Citing what you imagine is the will of posters here isn't going to prove the above.
 
Hmmm. I don't think there's anything new to litigate on that point in this thread. You aren't convinced by our arguments. Call that a win if you want.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
That you don't understand what "societal will" is, is not particularly surprising.
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Why don't you explain it to me then?

I think you are in denial about how incredibly addictive porn is - to the extent that it takes precedence over society's treatment of children.
 
Poem said:
Why don't you explain it to me then?

I think you are in denial about how incredibly addictive porn is - to the extent that it takes precedence over society's treatment of children.
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You still haven't addressed Greg's questions about the specific harm of porn. Even if I agree that porn is addictive, which I don't. There is no evidence that it takes precedence over the treatment of children. Whereas your porn, the Bible, specifically tells us to beat them and abuse them. It even says it is OK to stone them.
 
arthwollipot said:
No, you didn't. You dismissed the question with vague generalities. I want you to be specific. Precisely what harm comes to adults who consume legal pornography? Let's have details.
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You haven't gone back far enough.

Porn has become so normalised and society so desensitised that Pornhub et al aren't being properly held to account. The FTC have effectively said the opposite to your 'reputable and law-abiding' haven't they?
 
Lithrael said:
Hmmm. I don't think there's anything new to litigate on that point in this thread. You aren't convinced by our arguments. Call that a win if you want.
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Lithrael said:
I don't think you'll find anyone in here who would object to giving regulators enough teeth to motivate content hosts to deal with illegal content more seriously.
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According to Art, Pornhub is reputable and law-abiding - but the FTC says they should be facing crippling financial liabilities. That hardly equates with what you claim.

Is Pornhub reputable and law-abiding?
 
Poem said:
Not according to #3,025. Provide a citation that says otherwise.

Do you accept that they should be crippled by their financial liabilities?
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No no. You don't get to dodge the question this time.

Specify, in detail, exactly what harm is caused to adults by viewing legal porn, or we have nothing more to discuss.
 
The overriding harm of 'legal' porn is that children end up watching it. The right thing to do would be to pre-emptively make 100% certain that that cannot happen. As things stand, anyone uploading porn will know there is a good chance they will be 'severely harming' children by doing so.

There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats it's children.
 
arthwollipot said:
No no. You don't get to dodge the question this time.

Specify, in detail, exactly what harm is caused to adults by viewing legal porn, or we have nothing more to discuss.
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For some reason you can't be bothered to go back over the thread can you? You also don't want to talk about Pornhub - probably because it is so popular and you got it wrong about them being reputable.
 
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