Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

d4m10n said:
You are welcome to promote the hypothesis that Kirk was doing at least some apolitical hateful speech.

I'm guessing you don't follow his body of work too much, but best of luck!
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It goes back to the disingenuous classification of bigotry as a political position. Just because Kirk might have considered his bigotry a political position doesn't mean that Robinson perceived it as a political position or his murder of Kirk as a political act, and you have zero evidence that he did.
 
d4m10n said:
Kirk was silenced because he platformed (hateful) political speech, that is, for exercising his 1st Amendment rights.

It's a common meme in right wing circles that the second amendment protects the first; hopefully some of them will see the irony here.
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The only irony is that the right doesn't actually care about the First Amendment, as recent events have demonstrated.
 
d4m10n said:
Kirk was silenced because he platformed (hateful) political speech, that is, for exercising his 1st Amendment rights.

It's a common meme in right wing circles that the second amendment protects the first; hopefully some of them will see the irony here.
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Is that what Robinson said?
 
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johnny karate said:
Good question. I'd also like to know from where d4m10n got this information about the motive and whether or not he has alerted the authorities because they don't seem to know it.
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I like to remind these "know-it-alls" that if they really know so much, then they need to share their info with the authorities lest they be considered accessories after the fact. Turns out they don't know jack-crap at all. :)
 
d4m10n said:
You do, just have a look at https://tpusa.com/
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That isn't what I was talking about.

Scenario:

Lets say I decide to kill some politician in my country. He's right wing, I'm left wing, so on the face of it, that looks like a political assassination.

What if I were to now tell you that I recently discovered that 20 years ago, before he was ever a politician, he molested my 12 year old granddaughter on multiple occasions, resulting in her suicide as a teenager, and that is the reason I am going to kill him.

Still a political assassination?

This is what I mean when I ask... "Who gets to decide whether or not speech is political?"
 
smartcooky said:
That isn't what I was talking about.

Scenario:

Lets say I decide to kill some politician in my country. He's right wing, I'm left wing, so on the face of it, that looks like a political assassination.

What if I were to now tell you that I recently discovered that 20 years ago, before he was ever a politician, he molested my 12 year old granddaughter on multiple occasions, resulting in her suicide as a teenager, and that is the reason I am going to kill him.

Still a political assassination?

This is what I mean when I ask... "Who gets to decide whether or not speech is political?"
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You picked a bad example there, since the same party is also in favor of molesting 12 year olds (therefore anyone who isn't is a radical leftist).
 
Beelzebuddy said:
You picked a bad example there, since the same party is also in favor of molesting 12 year olds (therefore anyone who isn't is a radical leftist).
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Yeah.
Actually, those readers who are from New Zealand, or know anything about NZ politics, and are old enough to remember Graham Capill will know exactly why I picked that scenario and example.
 
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