General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 4

[Chanakya]

Civilians made up 15 of every 16 people killed by Israel in Gaza since March, data suggests

Report from independent conflict tracker Acled indicates one of the highest civilian death rates since start of war

www.theguardian.com

Tell me again that this is just.

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This is just. Anyone arguing it isn't is an antisemite.

 

[webfusion]

Hamas isn't the one flattening everyone's houses.

Actually, the entire situation of Gaza is at the feet of HAMAS. Their tactics and strategy involves the IDF needing to advance cautiously, and facing a myriad of booby-traps and IED's and RPG ambushes.

Forget about buildings. They're lying in ruins. The Gaza Strip is requiring a total rehabilitation.

IDF strikes 100 terror targets in Gaza as ground forces press deeper into Hamas strongholds

Israeli forces destroy tunnels and weapons depots while eliminating Hamas terrorists across Gaza; Airstrikes hit 100 sites in support of divisions advancing in Gaza City, Jabaliya, Khan Younis, and Rafah

www.ynetnews.com

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Israel attack on Yemeni newspaper was second deadliest on journalists ever recorded

Press freedom group says ‘brutal and unjustified attack’ is deadliest since 2009 Maguindanao massacre in Philippines

www.theguardian.com

murdering journalists far outside any combat zone shows that Israel doesn't even try to pretend that they aren't selectively killing journalists whenever and wherever they can.

2024 is deadliest year for journalists in CPJ history; almost 70% killed by Israel - Committee to Protect Journalists

Introduction More journalists were killed in 2024 than in any other year since the Committee to Protect Journalists began collecting data more than three decades ago. At least 124 journalists and media workers were killed last year, nearly two-thirds of them Palestinians killed by Israel. The...

cpj.org

 

[arthwollipot]

TBH I've just stopped reading the Israeli propaganda at this point.

 

[webfusion]

TBH I've just stopped reading the Israeli propaganda at this point.

So, you've decided to just read the HAMAS propaganda only?

Hamas-associated journalist arrested by Dutch police | The Jerusalem Post

Ayash is reportedly set to be deported to Austria.

www.jpost.com

 

[arthwollipot]

So, you've decided to just read the HAMAS propaganda only?

I prefer independent journalism.

UK set to recognise Palestinian state on Sunday

Keir Starmer expected to confirm move after concluding the situation has worsened significantly in recent weeks

www.theguardian.com

 

[webfusion]

I prefer independent journalism.

There are no 'independent' news reporters in Gaza.
They are either directly affiliated with the islamic-jihadist media apparatus or operate under strict HAMAS-imposed limitations & instructions (regarding content), making objective journalism nearly impossible.
Stories about those in Gaza opposed to HAMAS? Non-existent.
Information about areas with local clans in charge being quiet and having no issues with aid? Never gonna see it.
Interviews with people demanding to leave? No way.


IDF is slicing through the alleyways and main roads, using Zeldas to clear the path for infantry soldiers.
--- reported by Doron Kedosh on Galei Tzahal (IDF Radio).
Independent media? Nope.
Accurate report? Yep.

How Israel’s robotic armored vehicles destroy terror infrastructure in Gaza

Since the start of the operation in Gaza City, the IDF has been operating dozens of robotic armored personnel carriers to destroy terrorist infrastructure.

www.israelnationalnews.com

 

[arthwollipot]

There are no 'independent' news reporters in Gaza.

Not if you believe the Israeli propaganda there aren't.

 

[webfusion]

There are only local Palestinian journalists working in Gaza.
Israel's ban on independent international press entering Gaza precludes them from being there.
Numerous international media and press freedom organizations, including the CPJ and Reporters Without Borders (RSF), have called on Israel to grant independent access to Gaza for foreign journalists.

If you have information about 'independent' media in Gaza, you're welcome to present it.

 

[Hercules56]

There are only local Palestinian journalists working in Gaza.
Israel's ban on independent international press entering Gaza precludes them from being there.
Numerous international media and press freedom organizations, including the CPJ and Reporters Without Borders (RSF), have called on Israel to grant independent access to Gaza for foreign journalists.

If you have information about 'independent' media in Gaza, you're welcome to present it.

Israel bans all foreign press and then cries and whines that all the news media out of Gaza is all negative and sides against Israel.

Classic.

 

[Hercules56]

True friends of peace, have recognized the State of Palestine. More coming this week. Hopefully also more sanctions on Israel till they stop the bigotry and insanity.

 

[webfusion]

"(Boycott/Sanctions/Divestments)...till they stop the bigotry and insanity." - Hercules56

Hmmmmm, who gets to decide when Israel has 'stopped' anything?

This so-called State of Palestine was declared in 1988.
Until this very day, there is not a State of Palestine. There is 'recognition' of one, without borders, without a proper elected Government. It's all for show. OK, let's see that show attract some spotlights. No biggie. In a few weeks from now, nothing will have changed for Palestinians. Not a damn thing.

Israel is not 'crying and whining' about press coverage dependent on HAMAS' party line. On the contrary, Israel is saying "if you're a media enterprise in the service of HAMAS, we'll simply cut you off at the knees..."
HAMAS utilizes a variety of traditional and online platforms to promote its political and military objectives, in what is described as a sophisticated information warfare strategy. (Hamas operates its own media network, which includes Al-Aqsa TV). HAMAS official accounts have been banned from most social media platforms.

For the record, the main antennas of HAMAS broadcasting were on the top of the Gaza apartment/office towers, and Israel unceremoniously brought these towers to the ground in airstrikes recently.

 

[Hercules56]

"(Boycott/Sanctions/Divestments)...till they stop the bigotry and insanity." - Hercules56

Hmmmmm, who gets to decide when Israel has 'stopped' anything?..

Cerntainly not YOU, as you think their is no bigotry and discrimination and war crimes on Israel's part.

 

[Hercules56]

True friends of peace, have recognized the State of Palestine. More coming this week. Hopefully also more sanctions on Israel till they stop the bigotry and insanity.

Portugal just joined the list.

 

[Hercules56]

The world is making the right choice.

 

[theprestige]

The world is making the right choice.

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You know you're on the wrong side of history when you agree with Russia, China, and Iran.

 

[Hercules56]

You know you're on the wrong side of history when you agree with Russia, China, and Iran.

So most of the planet Earth is wrong, and pretty much JUST the USA and Fiji are right??

LOL!!!

Ok bro.

 

[lionking]

So most of the planet Earth is wrong, and pretty much JUST the USA and Fiji are right??

LOL!!!

Ok bro.

So what are the boundaries and capital city of this wonderful state?

 

[Hercules56]

So what are the boundaries and capital city of this wonderful state?

The West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. Until such time as Israel negotiates a final peace treaty with mutually accepted borders.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

You know you're on the wrong side of history when you agree with Russia, China, and Iran.

And if you're only on the side of two of them, like Israel?
Or just bending over for Russia like the US?