Armitage72
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I thought they were a roommate he rented a room from, and there was no indication that they were actually transgender. Has that changed recently? I haven't really been keeping up.
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Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed
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I thought they were a roommate he rented a room from, and there was no indication that they were actually transgender. Has that changed recently? I haven't really been keeping up.
Thermal
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Text messages were released by officials between Robinson and the allegedly trans guy. Robinson addresses the trans guy as 'my love', soooo...
Eta: the roommate's name is Lance Twiggs. The governor reports that he is transitioning from MtF and has been cooperating with the state
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stanfr
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Yeah, and according to CTs on both the left and right, the text messages have to be fake cause there's "no way a 22 yr old would use the term 'old man' or 'vehicle' in a text"
If you're a left wing CT, it's all a pretext for Trump to crack down on liberals. If you're a right wing CT, it is all a false flag to cover for a professional Israeli hit job...
I personally think they are legit, but possibly pre composed.
The one good thing in here at least is we're all trying to disown Robinson from "our side".
Thermal
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'Pre composed' was something I floated earlier, like maybe there was an agreement to land all the blame on Tyler if he got caught.
I have to admit it doesn't sound to me at all like a couple Zoomers texting. But people are different; maybe they text like middle aged young-adult-novel writers all the time.
angrysoba
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I don't really think any of that indicates anything at all.Investigators could find a dozen links between Robinson and the far-right - right wing media talking heads and the MAGA Morons who worship them will just hand-wave them all away, but if those investigators also find even one, tenuous link to anyone on the left, those same talking heads and morons will amplify it beyond all reason.
So far, what we know is...
1. He is a gun owner and gun enthusiast (strongly indicates Right)
2. He was brought up in a Trump supporting family (indicates Right)
3. On the day of the shooting he was wearing a T-Shirt with "Land of the Free" & "Home of the Brave" above and below a US flag fronted by a Golden Eagle (indicates Right)
4. He is a native of Utah, a strongly red state (indicates Right)
5. Used "Donald Trump" as his gamer username (indicates Right)
6. Had a transgender partner (indicates Left)
The evidence so far weighs more heavily in favor of him being politically right of center.
NOTE TO HEAD THE NITPICKERS OFF AT THE PASS:
"Indicates" does not mean "is". Those who make arguments against the above such as "not everyone in Utah is a Republican" are missing the point.
I would say that him shooting Charlie Kirk because he hates Charlie Kirk's hateful rhetoric, as he is alleged to have written in texts to his roommate, very strongly suggest a more left-wing orientation.
That is usually how these things work. If you ask who would want to do this, the initial suspicion is likely to be someone on the left rather than the right.
Thermal
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I think I'd be a lot happier if they worried less about his political orientation and made this more about the need for early intervention for mental health assistance. I really don't give a ◊◊◊◊ if a murderers bullets are red or blue.
jt512
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The hunting rifle he used was reportedly a gift from his grandfather. How do you know he was a "gun enthusiast"?
"So far" because your list selectively ignore contrary evidence:2. He was brought up in a Trump supporting family (indicates Right)
3. On the day of the shooting he was wearing a T-Shirt with "Land of the Free" & "Home of the Brave" above and below a US flag fronted by a Golden Eagle (indicates Right)
4. He is a native of Utah, a strongly red state (indicates Right)
5. Used "Donald Trump" as his gamer username (indicates Right)
6. Had a transgender partner (indicates Left)
The evidence so far weighs more heavily in favor of him being politically right of center.
7. He had the lyrics of the Antifa anthem "Bella Ciao" engraved on one cartridge and "Hey, fascist. Catch" on another (strongly suggests left).
8. According to his mother, he had recently become more leftist (suggests left).
You seem strangely invested in Robinson being having a right-wing ideology.
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Norman Alexander
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The whole family were avid gun enthusiasts. AFAIK, nobody has shown he suddenly spurned them and put his guns back in the garage. In fact, I recall there's plenty of recent photos of him at gun ranges, etc.
And you are sure he wrote those? Given the haphazard and utterly amateur nature of the police and FBI search, there's almost zero guarantee those are Robinson's bullets, or that he had anything to do with them. They may be his, but then again, they may not. And if not, how did they get in the evidence?
And why would he leave bullets to be found anyway? Isn't it good practice to pick up your brass and spares after a shoot? And if he really intended to hide the weapon, he did a crap job of it if Patel's FBI found it. In a gun-shaped cardboard box?? SRSLY?
Given the MAGA-ness of the family, that could mean he became more like Mitch McConnell than Stephen Miller, i.e. just a tad less right than they were. Or as mother would describe it: Totally Commie.
Nobody cares. Really, NOBODY cares. If he actually killed Kirk then he deserves no less than the full force of the law, political views be damned.
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arthwollipot
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"Bella Ciao" is a well-known troll used by groypers to annoy people.
smartcooky
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Grandpappy gives grandson a gun when grandson has no interest in guns. Give me a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ break!!
7. is by no means certain. "Bella Ciao" is an ITALIAN RESISTANCE anthem, and what a=Arth. said
Wasn't aware of 8. But of course, a Trump supporter wanting distance herself from her son's actions could well say something like that. There are plenty of people who call the far left "Fascists" - most of those people are on the far-right
Actually, I am more invested in following the evidence.
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smartcooky
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Yes indeed!
I think we all know MAGAworld well enough by now to know that MAGA chuds consider ANYONE who is not a boot-lickin', ass-kissin', blindly loyal devotee of Dear Leader to be a radical left, pinko commie fag.
smartcooky
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Tyler Robinson's lover was kicked out of family home for 'problematic' behavior
The lover of Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, struggled with substance abuse and video game addiction, according to a family member.
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arthwollipot
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Let's face it, he's "not cooperating" with authorities, which means he's exercising his 5th Amendment right to not incriminate himself, so we don't really know a great deal about him. Some circumstantial evidence links him to the groypers, a group who were known to be annoyed at Kirk for not being far enough right , but we don't really know. All we have is speculation.
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Puny human! You thought you could evade the nitpickers? <evil laugh>
<sweet voice> Which type of eagle?
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The range of people who would have any idea what it was historically, and attributed it any significance as a present-day slogan seems likely pretty narrow.
FTFY:
With several maps and graphs of shemale searches, tranny searches and femboy searches:
Data Finds Republicans Are Obsessed with Searching for Transgender Porn (Lawsuit.org)
See also post 1,676.
I think most people forgot about this case last year. I did:
Republican NC gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson likes transgender porn, CNN reports (Washington Blade, Sep 19, 2024)
Pornhub Reports Explosion in Searches for Transgender Content (yahoo!life, Jan 3, 2023)
I guess it must be those chemtrails, the water fluoridation or maybe the Jewish space lasers.
And as an aside:
For some reason, Republicans are also more into cuckold and interracial porn - sometimes both:
Why conservative men are more likely to fantasize about sharing their wives (WaPo, Aug 27, 2020)
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Yes.
"Trump is the Hitler of our time! Free DC! Free Palestine!" would be more appropriate.
d4m10n
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Bullet casings.
The text on the casings, but also the subtext of copying Mangione by putting short messages on the casings.
Throwing a grenade to a fascist isn't all that obscure, the only wrinkle there is about Helldivers lore.
What person radicalized by the far-right is going to complain about Charlie Kirk being too hateful?
Groyper POV is that TPUSA isn't nearly hateful enough to the people they hate in common.
I'm not all that sure, but everything arguably political from this guy is left-coded so far, especially the part where he killed a prominent propagandist for the right.
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Norman Alexander
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Ah, so you started with the conclusion, and now you are just trying to fit the evidence to it. Right!
