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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

Well, Nelson directly quotes 'Vashya', who says, 'I'm not going to abandon you.' So there you have it. There's his direct source of information.
Vixen, I am assuming (as you have quoted and cited it) that you have a copy of Nelson's book. Does Nelson claim to have interviewed either Vassili?

If so, does he give any details as to when this/these interview/s occurred?

If not, does he discuss what sources he used to reconstruct their experiences?
 
If so, does he give any details as to when this/these interview/s occurred?
To be sure, the norm for a journalist writing a book on the history of an event is to footnote or endnote facts supplied by a witness with something like, “Interview 6 July 2010” or “letter dated 7 June 2010.” We’re told this is a “human interest” book, so in case the normal rules don’t apply in the case of a more dramatized account, maybe the moral is not to try to substantiate factual claims from a romance novel.
 
Nobody knows what happened to the senior Estonian crew. Yet 245lb Voronin, with self-reported suspected broken back from violent listing injury plus fifteen-year old plus older relative, together with a retired sea captain in his mid-70's and his wife, survived OK. They were from the same cabin area as the senior crew. Other survivors were the engine room crew who knew how to get the hell out of there fast, together with passport and wet suit gear.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the crew drowned in the ship, or in the water. The senior crew members had important jobs, and were likely doing them, or trying to get to their station in a ship that had a dramatic list, and hundreds of panicking passengers. Survival depended on how fast one reached the boat decks.

Not sure why I need to explain the obvious.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the crew drowned in the ship, or in the water. The senior crew members had important jobs, and were likely doing them, or trying to get to their station in a ship that had a dramatic list, and hundreds of panicking passengers. Survival depended on how fast one reached the boat decks.

Not sure why I need to explain the obvious.
In a conspiracy fantasy the obvious is the first thing to be rejected.
 
Vixen, I am assuming (as you have quoted and cited it) that you have a copy of Nelson's book. Does Nelson claim to have interviewed either Vassili?

If so, does he give any details as to when this/these interview/s occurred?

If not, does he discuss what sources he used to reconstruct their experiences?
Not every book is an academic textbook. Nelson taught journalism at Uni California and Uni Utah, and has a further Masters in Creative Writing. It is similar in style to James Patterson's recent book on the Idaho 4, novel-style but based on true events and quoting real people. So there is no bibliography. He credits Valeria Kaspar , an Estonian documentary maker, plus he visited Estonia for a month for the purpose.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the crew drowned in the ship, or in the water. The senior crew members had important jobs, and were likely doing them, or trying to get to their station in a ship that had a dramatic list, and hundreds of panicking passengers. Survival depended on how fast one reached the boat decks.

Not sure why I need to explain the obvious.
A high number of the survivors were the crew.
 
Not every book is an academic textbook. Nelson taught journalism at Uni California and Uni Utah, and has a further Masters in Creative Writing. It is similar in style to James Patterson's recent book on the Idaho 4, novel-style but based on true events and quoting real people. So there is no bibliography. He credits Valeria Kaspar , an Estonian documentary maker, plus he visited Estonia for a month for the purpose.
Useless as a source, then.
 
And Vashya is Vassili Voronin?
Obvs. To add, the younger Vassili and the older Vassili, together with Alexander V., all survived...yet they all ended up on three separate rafts, the kid being hoist up by Silja and the other two eventually rescued by helicopter. So yeah, the senior crew and the two show girls initially listed as survivors were suddenly taken off the survivors list albeit their bodies never recovered..
 
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Obvs. To add, the younger Vassili and the older Vassili, together with Alexander V., all survived...yet they all ended up on three separate rafts, the kid being hoist up by Silja and the other two eventually rescued by helicopter. So yeah, the senior crew and the two show girls initially listed as survivors were suddenly taken off the survivors list albeit their bodies never recovered..
Perhaps they were taken off the survivors list because they didn't survive.
 
Perhaps they were taken off the survivors list because they didn't survive.
How would they know that without a body? Survivors only got listed when they personally supplied their names to a designated rescuer personnel. Re the twins, someone gave the personnel her nickname, which wouldn't be the name on the staff register, so how did they get to be listed as survivors, together with Piht, when that didn't happen with any other survivor (i.e., an error)? Plus, remember Ken who rescued seven -as reported in early Swedish papers - which then was tallied down to one, and he got the highest military medal for it..? Could that six or seven be the 'missing crew'...?
 

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