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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

You can read more about Bollyn and the suitcase here:

That's just a piece that repeats Bollyn's claims. It isn't evidence for them.

Why are you incapable of providing evidence for anything Vixen?
 
That's just a piece that repeats Bollyn's claims. It isn't evidence for them.

Why are you incapable of providing evidence for anything Vixen?
What did you want evidence of? This is how current affairs work. News report, Estonia accident being reinvestigated. The whys and wherefores, how, what and why, updated accordingly.
 
She has definitely been reported as having said it. You can research Süddeutsche Zeitung, dated Saturday prior to 24 Sept 2002, to see exactly what she said, if you are interested enough. How else does news work?
There you go again. You are the one telling us she said it yet you can't show us where she said it or exactly what she said, you just refer us to a report that she said something.
 
So you haven't got any actual sources for any of the claims you post?

You just send us round in circles.

It's a Cheese Shop.
Erm, a poster named ReformedOfflian enquired about the audio for the Voronin attaché case. I supplied it. the interest in Voronin and his case is his, not mine. I was being helpful in giving him the link. Ask him why he is interested in it. I am only the inbetween.
 
There you go again. You are the one telling us she said it yet you can't show us where she said it or exactly what she said, you just refer us to a report that she said something.
The fact of her having said it exists. I provided the link. I am not sure why I am suddenly expected to be an expert on Voronin's life story.
 
It would have been the German Group of Experts.
Can we have a specific and precise citation for that, please?

And if the German Group of Experts was the source of your claims about Aleksandr Voronin's spacecraft related businesses, how is it relevant that Rabe worked for Der Spiegel?
 
The fact of her having said it exists. I provided the link. I am not sure why I am suddenly expected to be an expert on Voronin's life story.
Claims of her having said it exist. You provide links to claims, typically without a chain of attribution which can be followed, and pretend not to realise there's a difference between these and direct quotations.

You perpetuate this thread by constantly regurgitating ridiculous, debunked and often contradictory claims as if you took them seriously. Nobody else is championing all this crap. Only you. Nobody else is perpetually bringing it back again for yet another run through its demolition.

Why do you do it?
 
Can we have a specific and precise citation for that, please?

And if the German Group of Experts was the source of your claims about Aleksandr Voronin's spacecraft related businesses, how is it relevant that Rabe worked for Der Spiegel?
As a journalist, Rabe investigated the Estonia accident. Rabe was a part of the so-called German Group of Experts. She believed the Rockwater dive was just a front for the Swedish government because they already knew the cause of the accident, which in her view, was a Swedish submarine collision (and hence, classified information). She points out the fact the divers only visited deck six for specific cabins and made no attempt at all to look at the car deck, or identify the bodies on the bridge. Rabe as a journalist had the means to publicise it via her channel. DER SPEIGEL sponsored the Rabe-Bemis-Braidwood expedition. That is how it is relevant she worked for DER SPIEGEL. You know, like current affairs? Make of current affairs what you will.
 
That was the information Rabe imparted to Süddeutsche Zeitung, according to reputable news outlet, Postimees 24.9.2002.
But there is no evidence for it., and his family have not only stated he never did so but that the brother he was reported to have never existed. So it can be discounted as Rabe making things up again.

So are you willing to state that? That there is no evidence for it and it's likely untrue?
 
But there is no evidence for it., and his family have not only stated he never did so but that the brother he was reported to have never existed. So it can be discounted as Rabe making things up again.

So are you willing to state that? That there is no evidence for it and it's likely untrue?
I am only reporting current affairs news. That is what Jutta Rabe has publicised, as her researched views. And let's face it, both Rabe and the later film crew, Evertsson and Andersson, also found a hole in the hull, which was not mentioned at all by the JAIC. Yet even Meister mentions it. So yes, it needed an explanation, hence the reinvestigation, which has been news in the UK as well as in these northern realms. How do you know it's 'likely untrue'? That merely indicates a closed mind rather than someone armed with all of the facts, given that a serious journalist is hardly going to repeat such a controversial claim without a solid source for it.
 

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