Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

Safe-Keeper said:
Plus, of course, I wouldn't put it past a far-right shooter to engrave ammo this way, to stir up even more hatred towards trans people.
On the other hand, I seriously don't get why a liberal/progressive shooter would want to stir up such anger against a minority that's already marginalized and under heavy fire.

But of course, all of this is reason and logic, which trumpkins will never employ, so.
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I will be very surprised if the shooter turns out to be an actual leftie.
 
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Beelzebuddy said:
I didn't think Luigi was left wing. I thought he leaned conservative but mostly wasn't political at all, until United Health Care screwed him over specifically. It was personal.
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No clue about Mangione's political leanings... but UHC didn't screw them over. Mangione never had UHC coverage. It may have been insanity, but it wasn't personal.
 
plague311 said:
That is the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my entire life. Is this supposed to be a bullet from the gun the guy used?
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No, it's a joke.

If you know how to read the head stamp it tells you It's a 5.56 NATO round made by Lake City Ammunition in 2010


LC is Lake City Ammunition, 10 is the year and a circle with a cross in it is the NATO standard symbol for 5.56 ammunition.
 
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Buckaroo said:
I will be very surprised if the shooter turns out to be an actual leftie.
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i wouldn't, there's crazy and violent people with all kinds of political beliefs. i look at luigi mangionie and seems to me that he wasn't particularly leftist or whatever, just a guy with a hurt back and a vendetta. who knows what this guy's deal is

maga is being whipped into a frenzy, treating charlie kirk like he was some kind of icon. he was a taller weird headed ben shapiro, just an influencer grifter that agreed with them. it's weird. bunch of morons can't stop themselves. now they're ready to go to war with a bunch of people russia paid tim poole to tell them to hate.

it's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ scary to me.
 
Emily's Cat said:
That's stupid - There's no rational reason that EU should care about this guy either way.
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Dominik Tarczyński MEP
@D_Tarczynski
As conservatives, we requested a minute of silence in the European Parliament to honor Charlie Kirk. The left, calling themselves democrats, naturally refused. They are the same everywhere… Even in the face of death, they are incapable of showing human compassion. Therefore, I will organize an exhibition in the European Parliament commemorating Charlie Kirk. His legacy will bear fruit…
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plague311 said:
The fun thing is no matter what happens or what is reported with regards to the shooter both sides won't believe it anyway. If it comes out this guy loves Trump, dated Ivanka for awhile when they were young, voted for Trump all 3 times, the right will still say it's a cover-up by the government. Even though their Jesus is currently running the government. It will still be a cover-up.

If it turns out to be a Dem then the left will say it's not true, the person was provoked by Kirk because of words, etc.

No matter what happens the bulk of people have made up their mind.
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Agreed; and I think trying to place the blame by either side on either side is playing the right's game. A debate can be had over whether the ACA is a solution to the problem of access to healthcare in America, and another over whether tighter gun control will helpfully address the problem of rampant (as compared to other nations) gun violence here; but, whether either solution is a viable (or even desirable) one, at least they are offered as solutions. The right mostly seems to have decided that the really important thing is not to fix a problem but just to lay a blame- in this case, where a professional edgelord may be the victim of his own rhetoric, the effort will be to pin the blame on the donkey (Democrats) instead of trying to find a way to dial down the rhetoric.

(And when they do offer solutions, it's almost always to problems that don't even really meaningfully exist. Crime is, at worst, the same as it's ever been in some cities? Yaaahhhhh!!!!!- emergency, send in the troops! Can't treat teh gayz like a subhuman class in the name of god, or (gasp!) say "Merry Christmas" in public anymore? Quick, pass some laws so that The Most Persecuted People In America- the Christians, of course- don't have to put up with that sort of thing anymore!)
 
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So the FBI have release a picture of a man at the scene not carrying a rifle but say they recovered the rifle in some bushes away from the scene.

OK.

Also the experts on professional assassins on Twitter saying the shot was so precise, hitting his jugular at several hundred yards that he had a to be a highly trained spec ops assassin.
They miss the one glaring flaw in their expert analysis.

Also twoo hundred yards with a rifle against a man size, stationary target is not a difficult shot.
 
Andy_Ross said:
So the FBI have release a picture of a man at the scene not carrying a rifle but say they recovered the rifle in some bushes away from the scene.

OK.

Also the experts on professional assassins on Twitter saying the shot was so precise, hitting his jugular at several hundred yards that he had a to be a highly trained spec ops assassin.
They miss the one glaring flaw in their expert analysis.

Also twoo hundred yards with a rifle against a man size, stationary target is not a difficult shot.
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I was thinking he was aiming for the head and missed.
 
Besides all the World's Leading Shootin' Iron Experts, there's a worthy band
of Prossors of Escaping Criminal Chasers and Aprehenders who're pontificating on how
good the perp was at getting away. And, so far, staying away.
Obviously, poor Krash is dealing with a trained mastermind sniper and evader
who will laugh! yes, laugh! at his walleyed attempts to bring justice to the case.
 
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