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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

Vixen said:
He states it is a fact Bollyn is 'anti-Semitic' because he believes 'Jews caused 9/11'. That is appealing to people's basest emotions. Believing Mossad, say, is behind 9/11, or that because a group of Jewish students were seen celebrating indicates anti-Semitism is utter knee-jerk nonsense. For all you know, Bollyn's views may be founded on well-reasoned and researched information rather than racism. I don't know, but given Bollyn appears to be a Middle East expert and lectures on it, maybe he is actually being impartial and objective in an academic way without bringing 'hate' into it. To add: it's a bonkers view but that doesn't mean it is based on anti-Semitism, per se. Seems to be more anti-Zionism, which is a known controversial issue.
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Bull. Three-plus years ago, I posted the following excerpt from a book Bollyn wrote on the September 11 attacks, which is available on his own website, to which I provided a link:

This chapter examines an extensive Zionist criminal network, which the evidence indicates is behind the false-flag terrorism of 9/11. The information in this chapter strongly supports the thesis that senior officers from Israeli military intelligence agencies were the chief architects of 9/11. . . .​
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Aware of the increasing prevalence and dominance of Zionist Jews in the political, financial, and academic sectors, I came to the conclusion that I was living in Jewish times. As an American raised with traditional Christian values, I realized that the culture I had grown up in was under attack and being reduced to a sub-culture. Through the Jewish-controlled media, a distinctly foreign and anti-Christian culture of pornography, perversion, and violence was being pushed. The producers of this "new culture" were primarily Jews of Eastern European origin. Through their control of the mass media, film, radio, and television networks, a diet of perverse entertainment and un-American values was being force-fed to the unsuspecting American population.​
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Concurrent with the rise of the Jewish-Zionist faction in the U.S. media there was a significant increase in Zionist power in the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. This influence could be seen in the way the U.S. government and federal courts unfairly prosecuted innocent people, including the president of Austria, on unfounded allegations of crimes having been committed decades ago against Jews in distant countries. Meanwhile, there was a noticeable increase in the number and magnitude of crimes committed by Jews in the United States and the international arena that went completely unpunished.​
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As in the Soviet Union, Jewish criminals in America used the "holocaust" and the slanderous charge of anti-Semitism as a shield to protect their criminal network and extortion rackets by intimidating and silencing those who would dare to expose the monstrous crimes they were involved in. A secret "combination" or Zionist network was clearly at work pulling the strings at the highest level behind the scenes. [Hiliting added in this post.]​
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This led you to the following two exchanges with Jay:

Vixen said:
Blimey.
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JayUtah said:
Is that a concession that the excerpt shows that the label "anti-Semitic" is properly applied to Christopher Bollyn?
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Vixen said:
Absolutely. Reads like an Anders Brevik manisfesto [sic], except instead of Muslims, we have Jews.
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JayUtah said:
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Bollyn is clearly your source for the claim that Sweden committed the crime of enforced disappearance against two Egyptian deportees, and that this should be considered a continuation of their behavior in the MS Estonia case. An honest person would have realized after some discussion that the claim is factually wrong and legally absurd. You have not; you have pressed onward hoping enough of that claim seems superficially credible and that no one would find out where you got it from.
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Vixen said:
Utter rot. Now that Spitfire has pointed out that Bollyn has a deluded idea that there is a granfalloon group of people who are running the world, bringing down Christianity and mocking up terror attacks, such as 9/11, I will obviously avoid him like the plague from now on.
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But then, less than two weeks later, you were already making an extremely lame attempt to rehabilitate Bollyn:

Vixen said:
Surely he is talking about 'an extensive Zionist criminal network', in the same way as someone talking about 'an extensive Mafia criminal network', or 'an extensive Mexican criminal drug cartel' is not a slur on all Jews, Italians/Albanians or Mexicans, just the organised criminal elements?
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You further questioned whether the book excerpt was genuine, ignoring the fact that it came from Bollyn's own website, and questioned the accounts of his antisemitism, ignoring the fact that they came from the ADL. Further, as I wrote at the time, "the fact that you chose not to follow the link seems to indicate that either 1) you aren't interested in the truth about Bollyn's views, 2) you don't want to know the truth about Bollyn's views, or 3) you already know or suspect the truth about Bollyn's views, but are hoping to maintain a fig leaf of deniability by pleading ignorance."
 
MarkCorrigan said:
So you read the page that "describes a Hollywood dominated by Jews who control America’s worldview." (34)
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Having a quick look at Ch IV, wherein 'Bollyn' describes 9/11, 7/7 London bombings and the Estonia sinking as 'false flag' military psyops, designed to make people hate Muslims, I now remember why I read no further. Whilst young adults might enjoy Colin Anton Wilson and Dan Brown-type conspiracy 'mysteries', Bollyn is pure pony, nasty and in poor taste, given the circumstances. I shall not be giving 'Bollyn' the dignity of any further discussion. He is a disinformation merchant.
 
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Vixen said:
Having a quick look at Ch IV, wherein 'Bollyn' describes 9/11, 7/7 London bombings and the Estonia sinking as 'false flag' military psyops, designed to make people hate Muslims, I now remember why I read no further. Whilst young adults might enjoy Colin Anton Wilson and Dan Brown-type conspiracy 'mysteries', Bollyn is pure pony, nasty and in poor taste, given the circumstances. I shall not be giving 'Bollyn' the dignity of any further discussion. He is a disinformation merchant.
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Yet he is the source of one of your claims not matter how much you try and obfuscate that fact.
 
Vixen said:
Having a quick look at Ch IV, wherein 'Bollyn' describes 9/11, 7/7 London bombings and the Estonia sinking as 'false flag' military psyops, designed to make people hate Muslims, I now remember why I read no further. Whilst young adults might enjoy Colin Anton Wilson and Dan Brown-type conspiracy 'mysteries', Bollyn is pure pony, nasty and in poor taste, given the circumstances. I shall not be giving 'Bollyn' the dignity of any further discussion. He is a disinformation merchant.
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As I mentioned, you said that three years ago, yet you were trying to rehabilitate him two weeks later, and now you seem to have conveniently "forgotten" that you agreed that he's a rabid antisemite. So why should we believe you now?
 
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