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MAGA after Trump - What happens after Trump is dead ?

It's my understanding that Trump passed away just prior to the last election and what we see now is a combination of holograms, an imperfectly lifelike robot, and an artificial intelligence bought for cheap in Leningrad. St. Petersburg. Whatever, you know people have different names for it, some say Leningrad, some say St. Petersburg, some say Moscow, I like Leningrad. Many people don't know who Lenin is. They say he's dead, but Vlad said to me, "Sir, you know the great John Lenin? Well, he's not dead." You can still see him lying around in the Kremlin sometimes. True.
 
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NM156 said:
10 alarm hangover for the vast majority of the country. PARTY
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Wishful thinking with regards to the vast majority point.
It's a cult. Trump will be glorified like no POTUS ever before. Days of national mourning, maybe even a week.
I expect state-run glorification on North Korean level, ordered and supervised by the government.
RIght wing media will go crazy with portraing him in a mix of martyrdom and heroism.
People cheering and partying will be seen as traitors.
 
carlosy said:
Wishful thinking with regards to the vast majority point.
It's a cult. Trump will be glorified like no POTUS ever before. Days of national mourning, maybe even a week.
I expect state-run glorification on North Korean level, ordered and supervised by the government.
RIght wing media will go crazy with portraing him in a mix of martyrdom and heroism.
People cheering and partying will be seen as traitors.
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Democrats will have killed him.
 
carlosy said:
I mentioned it multiple times here, in my opinion, Trump is not a person anymore, it's an idea, a movement, a concept. Call it MAGA , call it Trump... doesn't matter. What has been set in motion (politics, judicial, media), will not stop when Trump is dead. What probably will stop, is the clownery. But to all of us who can't wait for the day, I don't think what comes after will be better or any kind of relief.

Keep in mind, Trump is old and weak. He can't focus, he needs lots of rest.
And he spends much of his time with
- watching TV
- reading and talking to his cult members
- persue his personal revenge tour

Sure, still enough time and evergy to make stupid decision and break things.

But imagine whoever follows him, that person will be younger. Way more energetic. Way more focused. And can concentrate on the less personal things.
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1,000 year reichs never last much beyond their founders. It's going to be the same with the TACO reich.
 
Minoosh said:
A girlfriend of mine was worried about the Tea Party, whenever that was peaking. I said "Don't worry, these people are fundamentally not interested in cooperating." I thought when Tom Tancredo's bid to be the GOP nominee fizzled in 2008, we were past the visceral hatred of immigrants. Well, I was wrong. Maybe. We'll see. Conservatives talk about the left as if they are all insane, but I think their misguided attempts to roll back the clock will be exposed, somehow, as a malignant fantasy. Humans seem to have 2 competing instincts: conflict vs. cooperation. I hate to believe that future will be a planet dominated by openly anti-democratic "strongmen," but it seems were are moving that way. However, I suck at predicting the future. Also, I believe unintended consequences have a way of blunting the effect of any particular movement. My state went for Trump but also passed a fairly carved-in-stone guarantee of abortion rights, in some cases actually expanding on Roe v. Wade. I don't think it's possible to turn back the clock on "globalization" - IOW, recognizing the fact that the planet is actually one place, very close to being a contiguous land mass.

I don't understand the hatred of immigrants. The U.S. birth rate is down; so actually is Mexico's, although not quite as much as the U.S. Both are below replacement rates. We need more young people in the workforce but can't yet bring ourselves to legalize even the immigrants brought here as small children. The right cheers at "mass deportations." Trump will give them the optics they are looking for. But the nativist movement has a life of its own; it might have taken a Trump to consolidate that sentiment but nostalgia is apparently a hell of a drug. It's a losing cause, IMO, but I don't know if it will tip in my lifetime or not. On the other hand, it could all change tomorrow, or at least, the change might *look* sudden.

I mean, painting the border fence black? I made an unauthorized comment on r/conservative pointing out that gloves exist. Labor will migrate to find jobs and in many cases the fence is a tiny obstacle compared to what some go through on their journey north. And, I hate to generalize too much but overall I like immigrants more than the U.S.-born nativists who think that being born in a certain geographical area makes them superior and justifies their "screw the rest of the rest of the world" attitude.
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And in anything other than primary sectors (ie the extraction of raw materials) the jobs will move to find labour. In primary industry, without labour the industry will (eventually) die.
 
carlosy said:
Wishful thinking with regards to the vast majority point.
It's a cult. Trump will be glorified like no POTUS ever before. Days of national mourning, maybe even a week.
I expect state-run glorification on North Korean level, ordered and supervised by the government.
RIght wing media will go crazy with portraing him in a mix of martyrdom and heroism.
People cheering and partying will be seen as traitors.
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Now that you say so, I wouldn't put it past angry trumpkins and ICE thugs to turn up at the street celebrations.
 
There has not been any transiton from one cult leader to another as head of a state for a long time. You have to go back to say...Lenin. He was only in charge about 7 years. After that it had to be Stalin or Trostky. One of them won.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I live in a country that's currently about 40 years short of making it.
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Ye don't have a reich. A ramshackle shed down the allotments maybe but not a reich.

PS there's a lot to complain about England's empire, but it was never the kind of totalitarian far-right state that TACO's trying to build.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Ye don't have a reich. A ramshackle shed down the allotments maybe but not a reich.

PS there's a lot to complain about England's empire, but it was never the kind of totalitarian far-right state that TACO's trying to build.
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The same bunch of families have owned almost everything since 1066, that's as close as I want to get.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
This thread is interesting but irrelevant. Trump is divine and immortal.
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At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if there were cultists who had managed to convince themselves, if only subconsciously, that he can't die, to the point where they'll be shocked or even in disbelief when it happens. Like when Elvis died and (some few) people refused to believe it.

Heck, there's probably people who believe he's literally God incarnate or something.
 
Spektator said:
It's my understanding that Trump passed away just prior to the last election and what we see now is a combination of holograms, an imperfectly lifelike robot, and an artificial intelligence bought for cheap in Leningrad.
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You are talking about Trump. I don't think "artificial intelligence" (even a cheap one) really fits here.

Is there such a thing as "artificial unintelligence"?
 
Tero said:
There has not been any transiton from one cult leader to another as head of a state for a long time. You have to go back to say...Lenin. He was only in charge about 7 years. After that it had to be Stalin or Trostky. One of them won.
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There's North Korea, but after that it's down to definitions.

The Cult of Putin was underway, before he installed Medvedev as a place holder the first time.

Is the CCP a cult? I'd say it is. The leadership seems to have done decent job of managing succession at the top.
 
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