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Adult human female
Bear in mind that all that was discussed at a preliminary hearing. NHS wanted to compel everyone to use feminine pronouns for Upton. Recognising that this would be tantamount to conceding victory to the NHS, Peggie's representatives objected. (Saying "she should not be in the women's changing room" is a very different statement from "he should not be in the women's changing room".) It was agreed at that hearing that the NHS could use feminine pronouns and Peggie's side could use masculine pronouns, and the bench would avoid using pronouns altogether. (There was something about Peggie's side not using masculine pronouns in an offensive way, but really, pronoun usage is natural, nobody was emphasising anything.)
What then happened the other day was that NC's use of masculine pronouns for Upton broke down the conditioning of one of the witnesses - actually it was happening all the time, the only NHS witness not to use masculine pronouns for Upton at any point was Kate Searle, who seems to have a bit of a thing going for him, but it was this one in particular that JR objected to. It's natural to use the pronouns consistent with the sex we perceive someone to be. It takes quite a lot of effort to train oneself to use the objectively wrong pronouns. The handmaids, and indeed compelled employees, have gone to this effort, but it breaks down when they hear the pronouns they instinctively know are correct being used by someone else. In this particular case the witness was under pressure anyway, and JR jumped in with her pronouns objection to try to deflect.
But it was agreed at the start that NC and her colleagues and witnesses could use masculine pronouns for Upton (so long as it wasn't "gratuitous") and JR didn't have a leg to stand on.
Also, JR read from the English edition of the Bar Standards book, not the Scottish one. For whatever reason, the Scottish edition is more tolerant of advocates using right-sex pronouns, and this hearing is in Scotland. Another disingenuous trick.
This Bar Standards thing has been a big problem all along. At some point some years ago this was re-written to be 100% trans-compulsory. It instructed everyone in court to use "preferred pronouns" for the accused, even if this was someone accused of rape or murder who had been "living as a man" at the time of the offence. It led to rape victims being scolded by the court if they referred to their rapist as "he". It led to Maria McLaughlan being denied criminal injuries compensation when "Tara Wolfe" was convicted of assaulting her at Speakers' Corner, because despite trying to comply she had slipped up in the witness box and referred to him as "he" a few times. The judge considered this to be rude, so no compensation for you, Mrs Terf.
This was all caused by "Victoria McCloud", whom I believe to be the only transwoman judge in Britain. He got himself on to the committee tasked with updating the Bar Standards, and set himself up there as the only person qualified to have any opinion on the trans issue, and insisted on absolute compliance with pronoun use on the grounds that even rapists and murderers should be respected in their "authentic identity". Recently this has been rowed back a bit, apparently more so in Scotland than in England, hence JR's reliance on the English version of the current code.
Of course this led to men - Tara Wolfe is an excellent example - who appeared masculine at the time of their offence, tarting themselves up with makeup and hair extensions and nail varnish and a very close shave in the witness box, and revelling in compelling their victims to refer to them as "she".
Upton is another example of the same thing. There are pictures of him bearded, in men's clothes and in some as part of a rugby team. Then there's nothing until the pictures of him arriving at court, at first muffled in a woollen scarf, but then later exposing his face. Very close shave, hair longer than in the earlier pictures (although it was long for a man in these too) and a bit of lipstick. We don't have any idea what he looked like in late 2023 when the present dispute actually occurred.
If all a man has to do to gain entry as of right to all women's single-sex spaces and categories is to have a close shave and put on a wee bit of makeup, the whole thing is a complete farce. Which of course it is.
What then happened the other day was that NC's use of masculine pronouns for Upton broke down the conditioning of one of the witnesses - actually it was happening all the time, the only NHS witness not to use masculine pronouns for Upton at any point was Kate Searle, who seems to have a bit of a thing going for him, but it was this one in particular that JR objected to. It's natural to use the pronouns consistent with the sex we perceive someone to be. It takes quite a lot of effort to train oneself to use the objectively wrong pronouns. The handmaids, and indeed compelled employees, have gone to this effort, but it breaks down when they hear the pronouns they instinctively know are correct being used by someone else. In this particular case the witness was under pressure anyway, and JR jumped in with her pronouns objection to try to deflect.
But it was agreed at the start that NC and her colleagues and witnesses could use masculine pronouns for Upton (so long as it wasn't "gratuitous") and JR didn't have a leg to stand on.
Also, JR read from the English edition of the Bar Standards book, not the Scottish one. For whatever reason, the Scottish edition is more tolerant of advocates using right-sex pronouns, and this hearing is in Scotland. Another disingenuous trick.
This Bar Standards thing has been a big problem all along. At some point some years ago this was re-written to be 100% trans-compulsory. It instructed everyone in court to use "preferred pronouns" for the accused, even if this was someone accused of rape or murder who had been "living as a man" at the time of the offence. It led to rape victims being scolded by the court if they referred to their rapist as "he". It led to Maria McLaughlan being denied criminal injuries compensation when "Tara Wolfe" was convicted of assaulting her at Speakers' Corner, because despite trying to comply she had slipped up in the witness box and referred to him as "he" a few times. The judge considered this to be rude, so no compensation for you, Mrs Terf.
This was all caused by "Victoria McCloud", whom I believe to be the only transwoman judge in Britain. He got himself on to the committee tasked with updating the Bar Standards, and set himself up there as the only person qualified to have any opinion on the trans issue, and insisted on absolute compliance with pronoun use on the grounds that even rapists and murderers should be respected in their "authentic identity". Recently this has been rowed back a bit, apparently more so in Scotland than in England, hence JR's reliance on the English version of the current code.
Of course this led to men - Tara Wolfe is an excellent example - who appeared masculine at the time of their offence, tarting themselves up with makeup and hair extensions and nail varnish and a very close shave in the witness box, and revelling in compelling their victims to refer to them as "she".
Upton is another example of the same thing. There are pictures of him bearded, in men's clothes and in some as part of a rugby team. Then there's nothing until the pictures of him arriving at court, at first muffled in a woollen scarf, but then later exposing his face. Very close shave, hair longer than in the earlier pictures (although it was long for a man in these too) and a bit of lipstick. We don't have any idea what he looked like in late 2023 when the present dispute actually occurred.
If all a man has to do to gain entry as of right to all women's single-sex spaces and categories is to have a close shave and put on a wee bit of makeup, the whole thing is a complete farce. Which of course it is.
