lobosrul5
Philosopher
If only we'd left Iran alone to enrich Uranium to weapons grade they would've... what? How would that have been better?Yeah but now we've told them exactly how deep they need to dig.
If only we'd left Iran alone to enrich Uranium to weapons grade they would've... what? How would that have been better?Yeah but now we've told them exactly how deep they need to dig.
I suppose your plan would be to watch them dig, watch them install new centrifuges, watch them start up enrichment again, and *then* try bombing.Yeah but now we've told them exactly how deep they need to dig.
If only we had an agreement in place to allow outside inspection to ensure that none of the uranium was being enriched to weapons grade. If only the other signatory to the treaty hadn't elected a petty manchild who tore it up because he had a grudge about the Black guy whose shoes he was incapable of filling. If only the Israeli courts hadn't allowed the most recent set of appeals to Netanyahu's corruption trials so he'd already be behind bars by now instead of starting yet another war to delay it. If only the Secretary of Defense weren't an incompetent drunk more concerned about chatting on Signal than actual intelligence.If only we'd left Iran alone to enrich Uranium to weapons grade they would've... what? How would that have been better?
Nitpick. There was no treaty. Presidents can't rip up actual treaties. Somehow "the Black guy" never got around to having Congress ratify his happy thoughts. Maybe he just assumed the color of his skin would be automatically binding on all his successors, in perpetuity.If only we had an agreement in place to allow outside inspection to ensure that none of the uranium was being enriched to weapons grade. If only the other signatory to the treaty hadn't elected a petty manchild who tore it up because he had a grudge about the Black guy whose shoes he was incapable of filling. If only the Israeli courts hadn't allowed the most recent set of appeals to Netanyahu's corruption trials so he'd already be behind bars by now instead of starting yet another war to delay it. If only the Secretary of Defense weren't an incompetent drunk more concerned about chatting on Signal than actual intelligence.
There's a lot of if-onlys here.
Yeah they went to all the trouble of moving their enrichment program under a mountain and were becoming completely uncooperative with UN inspections because they had no plans of making a device. /sIf only we had an agreement in place to allow outside inspection to ensure that none of the uranium was being enriched to weapons grade. If only the other signatory to the treaty hadn't elected a petty manchild who tore it up because he had a grudge about the Black guy whose shoes he was incapable of filling. If only the Israeli courts hadn't allowed the most recent set of appeals to Netanyahu's corruption trials so he'd already be behind bars by now instead of starting yet another war to delay it. If only the Secretary of Defense weren't an incompetent drunk more concerned about chatting on Signal than actual intelligence.
There's a lot of if-onlys here.
The inspections did not ensure that. The inspections could not ensure that. They made enrichment to that point less convenient, but not impossible. And they did nothing at all to halt Iran from building the capacity for such enrichment.If only we had an agreement in place to allow outside inspection to ensure that none of the uranium was being enriched to weapons grade.
And then we bombed them unprovoked anyway and somehow friggin' Iran comes off as the good guy.Yeah they went to all the trouble of moving their enrichment program under a mountain and were becoming completely uncooperative with UN inspections because they had no plans of making a device. /s
Unprovoked? Iran has been provoking for decades.And then we bombed them unprovoked anyway and somehow friggin' Iran comes off as the good guy.
If only we'd left Iran alone to enrich Uranium to weapons grade they would've... what? How would that have been better?
Nor answering, nor debating, nor meeting rhetorical challenges, nor formulating responses in good faith.Of course you agree with yourself. But I wasn't asking you.
There was a deal. Trumpie boy broke it. Better if a fool stayed on his golden toilet all day and dropped his pearls of wisdom there.If only we'd left Iran alone to enrich Uranium to weapons grade they would've... what? How would that have been better?
That is the neocon byline. It hasn't won any wars. No hearts, no minds, no wins that matter. Lots of retreats with tail between legs, for sure.<SNIP> Just bomb...
Israel is not going to march on the Euphrates. That's just stupid. Forget what they want, they aren't capable of it. They don't have a military nearly big enough to even try. You can slander them all you like, but your claim requires them to be not only evil, but retarded. And they are obviously not retarded.Nor answering, nor debating, nor meeting rhetorical challenges, nor formulating responses in good faith.
I sense a pattern: unprepared, unwilling, unable.
You didn't answer his question.There was a deal.
The reality is you want Iran to have nuclear weapons.Let us honor factual reality, who lays dying before us.
Iran demonstrably attacks other countries all the time, with even less justification than Israel. Hell, Iran is even the world leader of attacking Israel for no good reason.If only we'd stopped Israel from having nukes, Israel that demonstrably does attack other countries, then we'd not look like complete hypocrites bereft of all principle, other than tribalism and pragmatism-based-on-tribalism, when we, rightly, stopped Iran from acquiring them.
would Russia be as aggressive if Ukraine had Nukes?No. Having nukes can prevent aggression by another party, yes. But having nukes also enables aggression by the party with nukes, as Russia proves.
Why are you in favor of enabling Iranian aggression?
Iran demonstrably attacks other countries all the time, with even less justification than Israel. Hell, Iran is even the world leader of attacking Israel for no good reason.
citation ?Iran demonstrably attacks other countries all the time, with even less justification than Israel. Hell, Iran is even the world leader of attacking Israel for no good reason.
Russia would be less aggressive if Russia didn't have nukes.would Russia be as aggressive if Ukraine had Nukes?
would Russia be as aggressive if Ukraine had Nukes?
we can take that as a No.Russia would be less aggressive if Russia didn't have nukes.