Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

[Hercules56]

Again, not an accident.

You're just making ◊◊◊◊ up at this point.

You have no evidence that they targeted the hospital, other than your bigoted irrational hatred of Muslims.

 

[Hercules56]

Israeli strike hits hospital in Iran.

Israeli strike damages hospital in west Iran as mutual attacks kill dozens

Tehran says at least 224 killed by Israeli strikes since Friday as it urges international condemnation

www.middleeasteye.net

Israel, Iran trade deadly strikes for fourth day with no signs of restraint

Israel has attacked a hospital in Iran and a building of state TV; Iran has struck Israel’s Haifa and Tel Aviv areas.

www.aljazeera.com

Another war crime by Israel.

 

[Ziggurat]

You have no evidence that they targeted the hospital

First, you have no evidence that it was an accident. Second, do you not even understand what the word "accident" even means? They don't need to specifically target the hospital in order for it to not be an accident. If they were aiming for an area that includes the hospital and it hits the hospital, that's not an accident. You could only call it an accident if the missile went off course or they screwed up the targeting data by mistake. Neither of which you have even claimed, let alone have any evidence for.

, other than your bigoted irrational hatred of Muslims.

All I have to assume is that the missile didn't go off course and that they didn't screw up the targeting data. Those are pretty reasonable assumptions absent contradicting data (which, again, you don't have). Nothing about that assumption requires hating anyone. In fact, it would seem kind of prejudiced against Iranians to assume that they can't build missiles correctly and can't figure out which direction to shoot them.

 

[Hercules56]

First, you have no evidence that it was an accident. Second, do you not even understand what the word "accident" even means? They don't need to specifically target the hospital in order for it to not be an accident. If they were aiming for an area that includes the hospital and it hits the hospital, that's not an accident...

So you're saying Israel also committed a war crime when they struck a hospital in Iran? And all the dozens of hospitals they have destroyed in Gaza?

 

[Hercules56]

...All I have to assume is that the missile didn't go off course and that they didn't screw up the targeting data. Those are pretty reasonable assumptions absent contradicting data (which, again, you don't have). Nothing about that assumption requires hating anyone. In fact, it would seem kind of prejudiced against Iranians to assume that they can't build missiles correctly and can't figure out which direction to shoot them.

Israel has the military assistance of the USA and the Europeans, who are the finest in the world.

Iran? They are assisted by Russia and China, and they cant design missiles for ◊◊◊◊.

Its fair to assume that it is MORE likely that when Israel hits a hospital, they meant to, and when Iran hits ANYTHING of value, its a lucky shot.

Let's not forget that you posted this:

https://internationalskeptics.com/f...te-against-hamas-part-3.372411/#post-14414202

 

[Ziggurat]

Israeli strike hits hospital in Iran.

From your link:

"Following the Zionist criminal regime's attack on a nearby workshop in Kermanshah city, Farabi Hospital also suffered serious damage," the Tasnim news agency reported.

I wonder what sort of workshop that might have been. Anyways, here's some video of the damage:

Video shows hospital damaged by Israeli strike in western Iran

An Israeli airstrike targeted the Farabi hospital in the western Iranian city of Kermanshah, badly damaging its facilities, according to the Iranian Red Crescent. The person speaking in the video can be heard saying that a specialized ward and the hospital’s intensive care unit were severely...

www.nbcnews.com

They did not hit the hospital. They hit something near the hospital (possibly the aforementioned workshop), and the blast blew out some windows an caused damage inside the hospital. But that is NOT what it would look like if they actually hit the hospital.

 

[Hercules56]

From your link:

I wonder what sort of workshop that might have been. Anyways, here's some video of the damage:

Video shows hospital damaged by Israeli strike in western Iran

An Israeli airstrike targeted the Farabi hospital in the western Iranian city of Kermanshah, badly damaging its facilities, according to the Iranian Red Crescent. The person speaking in the video can be heard saying that a specialized ward and the hospital’s intensive care unit were severely...

www.nbcnews.com

They did not hit the hospital. They hit something near the hospital (possibly the aforementioned workshop), and the blast blew out some windows an caused damage inside the hospital. But that is NOT what it would look like if they actually hit the hospital.

From your link:

"An Israeli airstrike targeted the Farabi hospital in the western Iranian city of Kermanshah"

 

[Ziggurat]

So you're saying Israel also committed a war crime when they struck a hospital in Iran?

Rule of 'so'. I said nothing about war crimes. I said something about accidents.

 

[Hercules56]

Rule of 'so'. I said nothing about war crimes. I said something about accidents.

According to your racist anti-Muslim logic, when Muslims hit a hospital its ALWAYS on purpose, when Jews hit a hospital its ALWAYS an accident.

Got ya.

 

[Ziggurat]

Israel has the military assistance of the USA and the Europeans, who are the finest in the world.

Iran? They are assisted by Russia and China, and they cant design missiles for ◊◊◊◊.

Russia is pretty good at missile design, they have some excellent ones. But it doesn't matter. If you hit something within your CEP, no matter how big that CEP, that's not an accident.

Its fair to assume that it is MORE likely that when Israel hits a hospital, they meant to, and when Iran hits ANYTHING of value, its a lucky shot.

I never claimed they didn't mean to.

Let's not forget that you posted this:

What sort of ignorant racist thinks that Iranians are Arabs?

 

[Ziggurat]

According to your racist anti-Muslim logic, when Muslims hit a hospital its ALWAYS on purpose, when Jews hit a hospital its ALWAYS an accident.

Got ya.

You don't "got" anything except straw. Nothing you said here is an accurate representation of what I said about anything.

 

[Hercules56]

Russia is pretty good at missile design, they have some excellent ones. But it doesn't matter. If you hit something within your CEP, no matter how big that CEP, that's not an accident.

I never claimed they didn't mean to.

What sort of ignorant racist thinks that Iranians are Arabs?

Oh so you don't believe Iranians are also a failed culture that can only produce oil?

Good to hear.

 

[Hercules56]

You don't "got" anything except straw. Nothing you said here is an accurate representation of what I said about anything.

You are convinced that when Iran hits a hospital, its cuz they targeted the hospital.

But when Israel does it, its always a terrible accident.

That's racism.

 

[Ziggurat]

Oh so you don't believe Iranians are also a failed culture that can only produce oil?

When they aren't hamstrung by radical Islamic nutjob leaders, yes, they're capable of quite a lot.

 

[Ziggurat]

You are convinced that when Iran hits a hospital, its cuz they targeted the hospital.

You really need to up your reading comprehension game. I didn't say that either. I don't know what they targeted, and I made no claim about what they targeted. I'm assuming (because it's a reasonable assumption and we have neither evidence nor claims to the contrary) that the hospital was within the CEP of whatever they did target. If you hit ANYTHING in the CEP, that's not an accident, even if you weren't targeting it. Why? Because you can expect that ANYTHING within the CEP might get hit. So if you choose to fire and it hits something in the CEP that you weren't targeting, that's still not an accident, because you knew it was likely to happen. Just like if you bet on roulette and lose, that loss isn't an accident, even though it's not the outcome you intended.

Do you have any evidence that the missile fell outside the CEP? Do you have any evidence that Iran didn't know there was a hospital there? No, you do not. You pulled the "accident" claim out of your ass, because for some unknown reason you appear to want to make up pro-Iran propaganda.

But when Israel does it, its always a terrible accident.

Again, I'm not claiming any accidents on Israel's part. That's entirely your own invention.

That's racism.

That's you hallucinating.

 

[Hercules56]

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israels-war-against-iran-is-americas-war-too/

Oh look, Israel is desperate to convince the USA to join them in this war, cuz they want Americans to fight their wars for them. Again.




Yelling and screaming that it would be "anti-Semitic" for the USA to not join the war in 3...2..1... Right @Ziggurat ?

 

[Hercules56]

You really need to up your reading comprehension game. I didn't say that either. I don't know what they targeted, and I made no claim about what they targeted. I'm assuming (because it's a reasonable assumption and we have neither evidence nor claims to the contrary) that the hospital was within the CEP of whatever they did target. If you hit ANYTHING in the CEP, that's not an accident, even if you weren't targeting it. Why? Because you can expect that ANYTHING within the CEP might get hit. So if you choose to fire and it hits something in the CEP that you weren't targeting, that's still not an accident, because you knew it was likely to happen. Just like if you bet on roulette and lose, that loss isn't an accident, even though it's not the outcome you intended.

Do you have any evidence that the missile fell outside the CEP? Do you have any evidence that Iran didn't know there was a hospital there? No, you do not. You pulled the "accident" claim out of your ass, because for some unknown reason you appear to want to make up pro-Iran propaganda.

Again, I'm not claiming any accidents on Israel's part. That's entirely your own invention....

So why did the IDFascists target the hospital? Was it a secret nuclear weapons factory? Clandestine hummus plant?

 

[Ziggurat]

So why did the IDFascists target the hospital?

I have no reason to think they targeted the hospital. I have no reason to think they even hit the hospital. The evidence I have is that they hit something near the hospital, and the hospital got damaged by proximity. And note: I am NOT claiming this was an accident.

Why did they hit something close to the hospital? I do not know. Neither do you.

 

[Hercules56]

I have no reason to think they targeted the hospital....

News report says they targeted the hospital. Israel has targeted dozens of hospitals in the last several years. No reason to think this was any different.

 

[Ziggurat]

News report says they targeted the hospital.

That's not a reason to think they targeted the hospital. That's just a claim. An unevidenced claim.

Israel has targeted dozens of hospitals in the last several years. No reason to think this was any different.

You mean aside from the fact that Iran is very different from Gaza?

You're really bad at this.