Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

[Hercules56]

Citation needed.

Citation for what???????????????

You must be joking.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Federal law allows significant military action for 90 days absent a declaration of war.

How long was your country engaged in military action in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

[Ziggurat]

What IS necessary, as far as the US is concerned, is a declaration of war.
Without it, no war.

I didn't say that the US was at war with Iran, I said Iran was at war with the US. Iran doesn't need the permission of the US Congress in order to wage war against us, that's even stupider. They don't even need their own declaration (though their "death to America" chants arguably qualify). All you need for war is to do the thing, what you say is rather secondary.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Citation for what???????????????

You must be joking.

For your claim to know what Iranian people want. No, I'm not joking. It's a thing called scepticism: evidence for claims, remember?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

So you got nothing
Good that that's established

 

[Cosmic Yak]

These people are Kurds, not Persians.

But still Iranians.

 

[Ziggurat]

Tell that to Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The lack of a declaration of war didn't stop those wars, did they?

You're actually wrong on this count. We did not declare war in those words, but the thing is, that's never been a requirement. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan all had congressional authorization for military action. That is, in all practical senses, a declaration of war.

But you are correct that the de facto state of war is not dependent upon any such legal niceties.

 

[Manger Douse]

These people are Kurds, not Persians.

Nope. That's the pre-revolution Iranian flag they're waving

 

[Cosmic Yak]

You're actually wrong on this count. We did not declare war in those words, but the thing is, that's never been a requirement. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan all had congressional authorization for military action. That is, in all practical senses, a declaration of war.

But you are correct that the de facto state of war is not dependent upon any such legal niceties.

Oh, I know it's never been a requirement. That was my point.

 

[Hercules56]

For your claim to know what Iranian people want. No, I'm not joking. It's a thing called scepticism: evidence for claims, remember?

I know this is hard for you to understand, but I made no claim of fact.

 

[Manger Douse]

I know this is hard for you to understand, but I made no claim of fact.

Do you think you know the Iranian peoples mind better than the Iranian people in that video I posted?

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I made no claim of fact.

Nothing new there.
OK, so you don't know what the Iranian people want, so your comments about that can be disregarded. Good to know.
Does this apply to everything you post, or is there some way to distinguish factual posts from stuff you just made up?

 

[Hercules56]

Do you think you know the Iranian peoples mind better than the Iranian people in that video I posted?

They arent Iranians. They are Kurds, who have their own nationalist agenda.

 

[Hercules56]

Nothing new there.
OK, so you don't know what the Iranian people want, so your comments about that can be disregarded. Good to know.
Does this apply to everything you post, or is there some way to distinguish factual posts from stuff you just made up?

When I make comments that are a claim of fact, I will support it with evidence.

Opinions based on experience, historical awareness and observation, doesn't require evidence.

Do you understand?

 

[Manger Douse]

They arent Iranians. They are Kurds, who have their own nationalist agenda.

Prove it - I want the ethnic background of everyone waving an Iranian flag in this video please:

 

[Hercules56]

Prove it - I want the ethnic background of everyone waving an Iranian flag in this video please:

LOL, these people are supporting Iran against Israel.

 

[Manger Douse]

Dup

 

[Manger Douse]

LOL, these people are supporting Iran against Israel.

The ones in the first clip. There's a lot of protesting Iranians

 

[Hercules56]

Apologies - these ones:

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Again, there are Kurds, who have their own unique nationalist agenda. They want to seperate from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey to make their own country.

 

[lobosrul5]

They arent Iranians. They are Kurds, who have their own nationalist agenda.

Even if thats true, are you really gatekeeping what ethnicity the Iranian diaspora has to be in order for their protest of the current regime to be legit.

A bit rascist doncha think?