Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

[theprestige]

I am using common sense, unlike you - just pressure has never been enough to create anything but lingering resentment and revenge - Post WW1 Germany under the Treaty of Versailles is the most notorious example.

Post Cold War Russia is a counter-example.

But it's true: Just pressure is a suboptimal approach. Sometimes, the only real solution is total war, military occupation, martial law, and an earned transition to democratic self rule. Until that day, Israel must do what it can.

 

[Andy_Ross]

This is what Donald left the G7 early for.

His plan for peace.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

 

[Manger Douse]

has it worked for Hamas?
Israel hasn't learned the lesson - will you?

Why should Iran be offered any carrots, concessions or whatever you want to them it since its Israel doing the spanking?

 

[Manger Douse]

This is what Donald left the G7 early for.

His plan for peace.

Works for anyone that holds any cards

 

[Andy_Ross]

He knows where the Supreme Leader is but he's safe.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
We know exactly where the so-called "Supreme Leader" is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers.
Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

 

[theprestige]

This is what Donald left the G7 early for.

His plan for peace.

Works for anyone that holds any cards

Personally, I'd settle for an internal coup, and a new regime that offered real olive branch to Israel. I bet Israel would, too.

 

[Andy_Ross]

We? Ids the USA at war with Iran?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured "stuff." Nobody does it better than the good ol' USA.

 

[Ziggurat]

We? Ids the USA at war with Iran?

Iran is at war with the US. Has been for 45 years.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

aaaand the Trump base anti-interventionalists will cheer for another war in 3 ... 2 ...

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Iran is at war with the US. Has been for 45 years.

incorrect.
they have no formal diplomatic relations.

I'm sure you can link to the Declaration of War to prove me wrong.

 

[theprestige]

Iran is at war with the US. Has been for 45 years.

To be fair, an argument can be made that the US started it.

incorrect.
they have no formal diplomatic relations.

I'm sure you can link to the Declaration of War to prove me wrong.

And here we see the Michael Scott Theory of Warfare.

 

[Hercules56]

There is no reason to believe the Iranian people have any interest in normal relations with the Jewish state after these attacks on their homeland.

 

[Ziggurat]

incorrect.
they have no formal diplomatic relations.

Wait, what?

Why on earth do you think diplomatic relations are necessary to have a state of war? That's stupid. It's akin to that Top Gear joke about Germans and driver's licenses. Except it doesn't appear you're joking.

 

[Andy_Ross]

COLLINS: Tulsi Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community said Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon

TRUMP: I don't care what she said

https://twitter.com/x/status/1935000192249389542

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Wait, what?

Why on earth do you think diplomatic relations are necessary to have a state of war? That's stupid. It's akin to that Top Gear joke about Germans and driver's licenses. Except it dosesn't appear you're joking.

What IS necessary, as far as the US is concerned, is a declaration of war.
Without it, no war.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

What IS necessary, as far as the US is concerned, is a declaration of war.
Without it, no war.

Tell that to Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The lack of a declaration of war didn't stop those wars, did they?

 

[Manger Douse]

There is no reason to believe the Iranian people have any interest in normal relations with the Jewish state after these attacks on their homeland.

They might be cool with attacks on their government though:

Iranians celebrating in front of the Israeli embassy in London

 

[Hercules56]

What IS necessary, as far as the US is concerned, is a declaration of war.
Without it, no war.

Federal law allows significant military action for 90 days absent a declaration of war.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

There is no reason to believe the Iranian people have any interest in normal relations with the Jewish state after these attacks on their homeland.

Citation needed.

 

[Hercules56]

They might be cool with attacks on their government though:

Iranians celebrating in front of the Israeli embassy in London

These people are Kurds, not Persians.