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Trump's Second Term

Andy_Ross said:
The Marines have been deployed, they are on their way to occupy LA
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth
@SecDef

Due to increased threats to federal law enforcement officers and federal buildings, approximately 700 active-duty U.S. Marines from Camp Pendleton are being deployed to Los Angeles to restore order.

We have an obligation to defend federal law enforcement officers - even if Gavin Newsom will not.
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Hey, Pete. The federal law enforcement officers didn't need to even be there. The LA police had it under control in the first place, and it was hardly a biggie. Sending in the Marines is just an unnecessary escalation. Likely they don't want to be there either, but they are obeying orders.

So what's going to make you and Trump happy? The Marines gunning down US civilians and making the streets of LA run red with blood? I'm sure that's what some people in the White House want. And when the horrible realisation hits that you have started a civil war in the USA, and it will be a spectacularly low point in US history, guess who the White House will blame. Yep, it will be you, not them. You're the patsy. Good luck!
 
The Jarheads in Pendleton are seeing these photos in the midst of their deployment and wondering what the four diamonds they have gotten themselves into.
 
RFK Jr. ousts entire CDC vaccine advisory committee

AP News said:
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Monday removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines and pledged to replace them with his own picks.

Major physicians and public health groups criticized the move to oust all 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

Kennedy, who was one of the nation’s leading anti-vaccine activists before becoming the nation’s top health official, has not said who he would appoint to the panel, but said it would convene in just two weeks in Atlanta.
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apnews.com

RFK Jr. ousts entire CDC vaccine advisory committee

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines.
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This is blatantly illegal.

5 Lawmakers in California and New York Are Denied Access to Federal Detention Facilities

New York Times said:
Three Democratic members of Congress from California and two from New York said over the weekend that they were barred from entering federal detention centers in their respective states to check on people who were detained in immigration raids or in protests against the raids.

All five members — Representatives Maxine Waters, Jimmy Gomez and Norma Torres of California and Representatives Adriano Espaillat and Nydia Velázquez of New York — said that they should have been allowed to enter the buildings as members of Congress.
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Under law, members of congress have a right to enter detention facilities. primarily so they can check on the well-being of an inmate.

Full story at the New York Times
 
newyorkguy said:
As Gavin Newsom posted:

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Not sure this is the flex Gavin thinks it is. They have indoor plumbing, no mud, no mosquitoes, no snakes, and they have 5G. Beats Fort Irwin or Hunter-Liggett. The NG slept on the floor of the US Capitol Building in 2020. Goes with the job. It's not a FOB in Syria. And Newsom dragged his feet, he should have deployed these guys before Donny T, along with the CHP in force to shut things down.
 
angrysoba said:
Doesn't sending the Marines violate Posse Comitatus?

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Not really. There are a couple of loop-holes that allow it with restrictions. In 1993 Bush deployed the 7thID out of Fort Ord, CA down to the LA Riots (Operation Garden Plot). They guarded key facilities like the power substation in El Segundo, and other key locations. While they were fully armed, they had strict ROE, and since many of the soldiers were from LA they knew how to handle the locals (Hey Ese, don't make us kill you). 2nd Brigade was down there about two weeks along with the CANG. Today USMC Cobra gunships were flying over downtown, and gave me flashbacks to 93 when Army Cobras were down there.

Congress could fix those loop holes any time they want, but...
 
Axxman300 said:
Not sure this is the flex Gavin thinks it is. They have indoor plumbing, no mud, no mosquitoes, no snakes, and they have 5G. Beats Fort Irwin or Hunter-Liggett. The NG slept on the floor of the US Capitol Building in 2020. Goes with the job. It's not a FOB in Syria. And Newsom dragged his feet, he should have deployed these guys before Donny T, along with the CHP in force to shut things down.
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Yeah, my first thought when I saw those images was 'I have seen that somewhere'.
 
NIH scientists condemn Trump research cuts

TheHill said:
Hundreds of staffers from across the National Institutes of Health (NIH) are speaking out against the politicization of their research and termination of their work while demanding that the drastic changes made at the agency be walked back.

In a letter addressed to NIH Director Jay Bhattacharya, more than 2,000 signatories stated, “we dissent to Administration policies that undermine the NIH mission, waste public resources, and harm the health of Americans and people across the globe.”
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Full story at The Hill
 
Norman Alexander said:
Hey, Pete. The federal law enforcement officers didn't need to even be there. The LA police had it under control in the first place, and it was hardly a biggie. Sending in the Marines is just an unnecessary escalation. Likely they don't want to be there either, but they are obeying orders.

So what's going to make you and Trump happy? The Marines gunning down US civilians and making the streets of LA run red with blood? I'm sure that's what some people in the White House want. And when the horrible realisation hits that you have started a civil war in the USA, and it will be a spectacularly low point in US history, guess who the White House will blame. Yep, it will be you, not them. You're the patsy. Good luck!
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The BBC site is running a live coverage page, should anyone be interested.
 
As of the close of the day on June 9, my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -780.

9 June 2025
-1: (Many Reports) Trump says L.A. would have been “completely obliterated” without the National Guard deployment [295]
-1: Trump lies about the protests in L.A., calling them “riots” and a “migrant invasion” [296]
-1: California governor Gavin Newsom calls out Trump’s lies on social media [297]
-1: Headline: Australian reporter hit by nonlethal round during live report from LA immigration protests (AP News)
-1: Headline: British photographer injured by ‘plastic bullet’ in LA protests (BBC)
-1: Headline: RFK Jr removes all CDC Vaccine Experts (New York Time)
-1: Headline: NIH staff demand end to research funding cuts (The Hill)
-1: Headline: Florida farmers plowing over perfectly good tomatoes as Trump’s tariff policies cause prices to plummet (Yahoo)
-2: Headline: 5 Lawmakers in California and New York Are Denied Access to Federal Detention Facilities (New York Times)

References

295. Trump’s comment is an outright lie: the protests in L.A. by and large were peaceful

296. Trump: “A once great American City, Los Angeles, has been invaded and occupied by Illegal Aliens and Criminals. Now violent, insurrectionist mobs are swarming and attacking our Federal Agents to try and stop our deportation operations — But these lawless riots only strengthen our resolve. I am directing Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and Attorney General Pam Bondi, in coordination with all other relevant Departments and Agencies, to take all such action necessary to liberate Los Angeles from the Migrant Invasion, and put an end to these Migrant riots. Order will be restored, the Illegals will be expelled, and Los Angeles will be set free. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

297. Newsom: Let’s get this straight:
1) Local law enforcement didn’t need help.
2) Trump sent troops anyway — to manufacture chaos and violence.
3) Trump succeeded.
4) Now things are destabilized and we need to send in more law enforcement just to clean up Trump’s mess.


8 June 2025
-1: Headline: Trump authorizes National Guard over L.A.-area protests against immigration raids (CBC)


7 June 2025
-1: Headline: White House scrambles to correct error strewn MAHA report (BMJ)
-1: Headline: MAHA adviser: Report’s citation errors ‘great disservice’ to Trump, RFK Jr. (The Hill)
-1: RFK Jr talks about “corrupt medical journals” [294]

References

294. RFK Jr has also put forth plans to ban federal scientists from publishing in prestigious medical journals such as The Lancet, JAMA, and The New England Journal of Medicine. Why? “They’re all corrupt,” he said in a podcast conversation with “biohacker” Gary Brecka.
RFK Jr proposes the alternative of state-run journals, where NIH funding would bestow the title of “good, legitimate scientist” upon researchers. He wants these state-sponsored publications to become the new gold standard in medical research dissemination.
https://themedicinemaker.com/busine...n-cans-bird-flu-vaccine-contract-with-moderna
 
grunion said:
The Jarheads in Pendleton are seeing these photos in the midst of their deployment and wondering what the four diamonds they have gotten themselves into.
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Well, they had booked rooms in a Four Seasons for them, but someone had made a mistake, and they had to bunk down in the stockroom of the Four Seasons landscaping instead.
 
grunion said:
The carefully planned federalization and deployment of thousands of California National Guard troops assured their luxury accommodations for the night. View attachment 61762
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I hate Trump and though this deployment totally uncessary and stupid, but hey ,I slept in worse then that when I wan in the US Army.
One thing about the Army: You learn to sleep whenever possible, no matter what the conditiona.
But, yes, thjis photo shows how badly planned and though out this whole fiasco was.
 
angrysoba said:
Doesn't sending the Marines violate Posse Comitatus?

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Being debated as we speak. The posse Comitatus law does not absolutely forbid the use of Regular Federal Troops to enforce civil law, but puts severe restrictions on it. Whether or not Trump had enough grounds for doing this is being hotly discusses.
But one biggied is that ever since the Civil War, Federal Troops this has been done only with the consent of the State and Local CIvil Authoraties.
This did not happen here.
Axxman300 said:
Not really. There are a couple of loop-holes that allow it with restrictions. In 1993 Bush deployed the 7thID out of Fort Ord, CA down to the LA Riots (Operation Garden Plot). They guarded key facilities like the power substation in El Segundo, and other key locations. While they were fully armed, they had strict ROE, and since many of the soldiers were from LA they knew how to handle the locals (Hey Ese, don't make us kill you). 2nd Brigade was down there about two weeks along with the CANG. Today USMC Cobra gunships were flying over downtown, and gave me flashbacks to 93 when Army Cobras were down there.

Congress could fix those loop holes any time they want, but...
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Worst power grab yet by Benedict Donald.
Helen said:
Well, they had booked rooms in a Four Seasons for them, but someone had made a mistake, and they had to bunk down in the stockroom of the Four Seasons landscaping instead.
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WHich would be paraside compared to some places US Marines have slept in.
In the Army and the Marines, you learn to sleep on some pretty rough places. if you are tired enough..which you will be...it really does not matter.
 
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