Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

Oh, a box of frogs is positively same by comparison🤣
- He thinks muscle turns into fat.
- He doesn't know what sex he is.
- He believes himself to be anatomically female.
-He thinks the oestrogen he takes stops him getting pregnant.

Christ on a bike! The guy is a nutter! Absolutely barking!
 
He also thinks that requiring male people to stay out of women's toilets is going to get someone killed.

Legal eagles say he wasn't a "real" judge, rather something called a "master". A couple of his judgments have been circulating and they're mad as a box of frogs too. He's been living in Ireland for quite some time, long enough that he has no standing to say anything about the SC judgment, but that isn't stopping him.
 
Hyperbole doesn't really help reasoned debate.
There was a funny Albert Brooks movie where his wife loses their nest egg on a gambling binge. He then forbids her from using the words nest and egg in the same sentence.

You should be forbidden from using the term reasoned debate due to the crap you've foisted here.
 
Trans are indulged to the point where even the woodwork teacher who wore the enormous plastic knockers to work was indulged
Anyone can admit that the public school took GNC tolerance way too far in that case (I don't recall much disagreement on this point) while also taking note that the examples given by @angrysoba are borderline cases worth arguing about. If Vance wears guyliner to a press conference, does that count as "performing of a sexual fetish in public" or not?
 
It's extremely misogynistic. Your hypothesis is that these women are almost all too stupid to swim good in collegiate competition.
Well I did say "Two of them look like they've learnt 'less time in water equals faster'.". So it wasn't so much 'all these women are too stupid to swim' but rather 'most, but not all of these competitors haven't learnt how to hit the water correctly'.
The phallic nail in the vaginal coffin of your misogynistic hypothesis is that the only swimmer who can swim good according to your hypothesis is in fact the one male in the race.

A less misogynistic hypothesis would be that what you see in this image is the natural physical advantage of males, even over female athletes of comparable experience, training, and drive. Maybe you think that's a bit transphobic.
That's what you said, complete with genital adjectives, but I refer you to my first sentence above.
Also I may be stupid for asking as I haven't checked but who won? Or was it a foregone conclusion?
 
Well I did say "Two of them look like they've learnt 'less time in water equals faster'.". So it wasn't so much 'all these women are too stupid to swim' but rather 'most, but not all of these competitors haven't learnt how to hit the water correctly'.
I said "almost all". Literally the same thing you think I should have said.

And you're still hypothesizing stupid women, rather than acknowledging the fact of males having an unmistakeable biological advantage in sports.

What you see in that photo is exactly what you should expect to see in that photo: A male athlete outperforming female athletes of commensurate potential, training, and drive.

There's no need to hypothesize that these women are too stupid to launch as far as they possibly can before entering the water.
 
Two of them look like they've learnt 'less time in water equals faster'. Those 3 in the background need to go back to school as the angle they're hitting the water is a mess. I presume the one that's jumped further and hasn't the water yet is the trans person? Maybe they have just learnt more about angles? Maybe that's a bit misogynistic.
That's a really stupid interpretation of the photo.

Regardless of the angle of entry (and there is some variation there), ALL of the women are hitting the water at a similar distance. Why? Because they all have similar athletic ability. There may be variations in technique, but regardless of how good your technique, where you hit the water is always going to be limited by fast twitch muscle fibers. Males have more fast twitch muscle fibers, and can jump father. That's why he's going to hit the water much father from the starting line than any of the other competitors. That's not due to superior technique on his part, that's due to the biological advantage of being a male.
 
Okay, so, @angrysoba mentioned that Vance (allegedly) wears eyeliner and they asked a question about whether that is also the sort of thing you'd consider fetishistic. I'd like to see how you answer that question, given that eyeliner is uncontroversially a form of sexual signaling generally associated with the females of our species in the sort of cultures which use TCP/IP to argue with strangers on the internet.
 
I said "almost all". Literally the same thing you think I should have said.

And you're still hypothesizing stupid women,
No I'm not, checked what I've typed. You're saying that, not me.
rather than acknowledging the fact of males having an unmistakeable biological advantage in sports.
Oh yeah, males definitely have a physical advantage in certain sports that involve male physicality, sorry for the tautology.
What you see in that photo is exactly what you should expect to see in that photo: A male athlete outperforming female athletes of commensurate potential, training, and drive.

There's no need to hypothesize that these women are too stupid to launch as far as they possibly can before entering the water.
The photo doesn't show the angle that the floaty one hits the water, so I'm yet to make up my mind about whether they are actually better than the other competitors. Who won?
 
Okay, so, @angrysoba mentioned that Vance (allegedly) wears eyeliner and they asked a question about whether that is also the sort of thing you'd consider fetishistic. I'd like to see how you answer that question, given that eyeliner is uncontroversially a form of sexual signaling generally associated with the females of our species in the sort of cultures which use TCP/IP to argue with strangers on the internet.

No. I think most people can tell the difference between a flamboyant man and a man in womanface.

This isn't something that could or would be legislated for. If Vance's employer considered that eyeliner was inappropriate for the job he'd been hired to do then he could instruct Vance to clean it off, and Vance would do that if he wanted to keep the job. He couldn't say "this is my gender expression and it's a protected characteristic." Something that might be entirely unremarkable in one context might be inappropriate in another.

I think about Andrew Millar. He was self-employed so he could do what he liked. He owned the butcher's shop in Melrose and often served in the shop dressed in his "Amy George" persona. People thought that was creepy and many chose to shop elsewhere. The shop wasn't doing well as a result. Now, if an employee was doing that, the employer should be able to tell him to knock it off or find another job.

I don't think anyone would have imagined that one cold winter day Andrew Millar, dressed as "Amy", would abduct an 11 year old girl, imprison her in his house for several days and rape her multiple times. But he did. The girl, being rather young to see past the disguise, thought she was being offered a lift by a woman and was less wary than she might have been.

The prevalence of sexual offending among cross-dressing men is startling. These are not normal, well-balanced people. Not all of them are going to be child rapists of course, but the entire subculture is riddled with porn and kink. Society would be well advised to recognise this and treat these people with due caution, rather than set up this fantasy icon of the vulnerable marginalised sweetheart who must be protected and coddled and given anything he wants (and damn what anyone else wants).
 
The photo doesn't show the angle that the floaty one hits the water,
But it does indicate the distance from the starting line. Which, again, is limited by physical capability.
so I'm yet to make up my mind about whether they are actually better than the other competitors.
The distance from the starting line indicates physical advantage provided by male physiology. Even if that advantage is negated by inferior skills, it still makes the race unfair.
 
Indeed

Women's Long Jump world record: Galina Christyakova - 7.52m (24ft 8in) with a 1.4 m/s tailwind
Men's Long Jump world record: Mike Powell - 8.95m (29ft 4½in) with a 0.3m/s tailwind
America's Katie Ledecky holds multiple world and Olympic swimming records, and has for about a decade. Her world record time in the 400m Free wouldn't have landed her in the men's top ten finishers in the last Olympics... and the boys weren't setting any records.
 

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