Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 32

[TruthCalls]

Read CPP Art 360 as you seem unable or unwilling to understand the issues here,

CPP Art 360 does NOTHING to remedy the numerous failures of the SP with just this one item, 36B. I know exactly what the issue is. The police and SP failed to follow proper procedures and protocols when it came to collecting, transporting, testing, and evaluating results. It seems it is YOU who is unwilling or unable to understand the issues here.

 

[Stacyhs]

That is not true. Stefanoni illuminated the knife blade to a high level.



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The firends of AK who made the Netflix film dishonestly doctored the slide of the knife and tried to falsely make out the finding was 'inconclusive'.

The people who made the Netflix documentary were:

Rod Blackhurst Brian McGinn

Matthew Hamachek Brian McGinn

Blackhurst Mette Heide Brian McGinn Stephen Robert Morse

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Do you have any evidence that any of them were "friends of AK" or is this just another invention of yours?

As for them "doctoring it", those are NOT the same photos. Notice the allegedly "doctored" one does not have the measuring tape above it nor does it have the swab. A "doctored" photo would have to be the same photo manipulated.

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Here is Dr Patrizia Stafanoni's testimony under oath during the trial:


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So, it was definitively identified as Mez' DNA.

I don't call this C & V report finding that it was "definitively identified as Mez' DNA".

we do not accept the conclusions regarding the certain attribution of the profile found on trace B (blade of knife) to the victim Meredith Susanna Cara Kercher, since the genetic profile, as obtained, appears unreliable insofar as it is not supported by scientifically validated analysis

 

[Stacyhs]

I wrote it. It was from my own research.

Here you go. My quotes are always properly sourced.

FROM TOM KINGTON, GUARDIAN 22 June 2008, as stated and as credited

Phone-tap drama in Meredith murder

Family of suspect in Meredith Kercher's murder investigation accused of attempting to interfere with inquiry

www.theguardian.com

Was anyone in Raffaele's family charged with anything? No.

"Relatives of Sollecito, including his sister, a policewoman, were also overheard discussing politicians who could help their case."

That is not illegal. Discussing who can help, including politicians, is perfectly reasonable and logical. But as usual, you must infer it in a nefarious manner.

 

[Stacyhs]

Stacyhs said:

What a load of rubbish. It's yet another example of your habitual accusations that you cannot support with any evidence including the accusation that Gill was 'bent'. It's another example of the years-long attempt to discredit any expert whose professional opinion does not support the guilt narrative. That includes Peter Gill, one of the most respected geneticists in the world.


You have never presented evidence that British expert Gill was paid anything by the defense. Another unsupported by evidence claim by you.

However, do you not understand that expert witnesses do not work for free? The prosecution has the advantage of the state paying for their expert witnesses while the defense has to pay for their experts themselves. Boemia and Rinaldi were paid by the state (which you previously denied but I cited the hiring notice...which you never acknowledged).
Gill had access to Stefanoni's analysis as well as C&V's analysis.


Chieffi did no such thing. He stated that Vecchiotti should have tested one sample on the knife that she believed too small to use. Their work was not found to be improper or impermissible.



Only YOU would call Peter Gill, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Forensic Genetics, Forensic Genetics Research Group, Oslo University Hospital, Norway a "tinpot FOAK scientist"! Even a UK tabloid describes Gill as "One of the world’s leading DNA experts."

Explain why there was no blood on the knife. How did it get so clean that not a trace of blood was left?


From Follain:

You wrote: As for the false claim of 'too low' that again is a meaningless notation an uneducated ignorant person spotted in some notes and decided to try to put it forward as proof the test was null and void."

Tagliabracci is NOT an "uneducated ignorant person." He's a professor of forensic medicine. Let me guess: he's also
'bent'.

Tagliabracci presented his testimony that the prosecution was 'suspect-centric' but this claim was rejected by the court. He tried to reintroduce this claim at the Nencini trial but again Nenicni came down on the side of Torrecelli. This is how a criminal trial works..

Your stance would be like someone chuntering on about 'the glove don't fit!' re OJ Simpson.

The above has nothing to do with my comment. It's just another "Look! Squirrel" attempt.
Massei and Nencini were annulled.
As for the investigation being suspect-centered, M-B had something to say about that:

4.1. Surely, an unusual media fuss about the crime,...prompted the investigation to suffer from a sudden acceleration, which, in the spasmodic search for one or more culprits to be delivered to international public opinion, surely didn’t help the search for substantial truth,

You claimed that Tagliabracci was just some "uneducated ignorant person," which he clearly is NOT.

I'll ask yet again:

1. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Gill was PAID by the defense?

2. Explain why there was no blood on the knife. How did it get so clean that not a trace of blood was left?

 

[Stacyhs]

Oh yeah, I forgot, Knox was wearing that incredibly pristine white skirt next morning. No sign of any blood there, M'Lud!

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The clothes she wore home that morning were lying on her bed ....blood free.

Sollecito to Knox: "Try to look straight ahead. Try not to look guilty."

Try to stop making up fake dialogues that exist only in your mind. They're tiresome.

 

[Stacyhs]

It is indisputabe the DNA found on the knife blade was of Mez. RS had an expert witness there, Patumi. Knox did not bother but she WAS worried about the knife, as expressed to her parents at an earlier stage. RS quickly explained the DNA of Mez on HIS kitchen knife as being an occasion when he accidentally pricked her hand, which of course, never happened. Plus RS refused to take the witness box.

Indisputable? You might want to check with Hellmann, C&V, Marasca. You might also explain how her alleged DNA survived a cleaning so thorough that all traces of blood were removed. How does on do that, Vixen?

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Source: Kermit / Raper presentation

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And the source most definitely is Mez' DNA as the computer produced printout shows beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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Anything written by James Raper or Kermit is suspect because they are as guilt-biased an everyone else at TJMK.

In addition, this was just ONE piece of evidence out of a whole range of evidence that built up the big picture. The judges and jury deliberate on a verdict only when they have seen ALL of the evidence from ALL of the parties, and not before then.

That "whole range of evidence" that ended in a definitive acquittal before 5 SC judges who saw "ALL of the evidence from ALL of the parties."

 

[Numbers]

The Italian Scientific Police follow the guidelines of the ENFSI – the European Network Forensic Science Institutes. Dr Stefanoni observed that they followed these specific guidelines whereas Conti and Vecchiotti basically picked and mixed a random selection of international opinions:


“We followed the guidelines of the ENFSI, theirs is just a collage of different international opinions”.


In other words, Conti and Vecchiotti were not referring to the specific guidelines and recommendation of one particular international forensic organisation despite giving that impression at the appeal in Perugia. They cited a number of obscure American publications such as the Missouri State Highway Patrol Handbook and Wisconsin Crime Laboratory Physical Evidence Handbook. The Italian Scientific Police are under no obligation to follow the DNA protocols of the Missouri State Highway Patrol and Wisconsin Crime Laboratory.

Vixen:
DId Stefanoni state in court testimony that she and her lab followed ENFSI guidelines? Please provide the direct quote and citation from the court testimony to allow readers to understand her position.

Please provide the direct quote(s) and citation(s) where Conti and Vecciotti referred to "obscure American publications such as the Missouri State Highway Patrol Handbook and Wisconsin Crime Laboratory Physical Evidence Handbook". Were these quotes included in their report or in their court testimony? (Both the Missouri and Wisconsin forensic procedure guides are quite thorough and align well with internationally recognized procedures, BTW.)

 

[Numbers]

Read CPP Art 360 as you seem unable or unwilling to understand the issues here.

Vixen, you are misrepresenting CPP Article 360. All that article provides for is that a non-repeatable "technical assessment" (such as a forensic test) conducted by an expert appointed by the prosecutor may be attended by an expert appointed by the accused (suspect or defendant) and the defense lawyer (and if the accused has no defense lawyer, the accused must be provided with one or informed of the need to retain one). (As a practical matter, the defense expert is retained with the help of the defense lawyer; no defense lawyer means there is no defense expert available.)

One other condition mentioned in CPP Article 360 is that if the accused asks for a special evidentiary hearing, the prosecutor must delay the ascertainments (the carrying out of the assessment) unless that delay is likely to compromise the results.

See: https://www.altalex.com/documents/news/2014/09/05/attivita-del-pubblico-ministero

 

[Numbers]

Why do you insist on just making up things? Is it any wonder why we don't just take your word for things without a citation? They didn't "refuse" to test that sample, they said it was too small to test. Why on earth would they hide the fact that it was AK's DNA on the blade as they already had her DNA on the handle? C & V were appointed by the judge. They weren't working for or being paid by the defense. They had no reason to be dishonest. This is just another pitiful promotion of your false "the defense experts were all bent" nonsense.


So what? Did it change anything? Did it prove Knox killed Kercher? Did it even prove the knife was the murder weapon?



Again, what did it CHANGE?

You do so love to speculate. The sample also tested negative for human species:



"The Great Bleach Cleanup Operation That Never Was". What part of "scrubbing the knife with bleach would have destroyed any DNA, including 36B" are you not understanding?

The contamination on the blade could have happened before it was collected.

It's unlikely that the knife blade could have been contaminated before it was collected. Because we don't know the details of how the knife and its blade were handled after being collected from Sollecito's kitchen drawer, it's difficult to say anything reasonable about possible contamination during the packaging step at the police station. However, it seems likely that the knife blade sample could have been contaminated during the non-validated and non-standard procedures Stefanoni used to remove the alleged DNA sample from the knife blade and then concentrated that sample using a suction device (IIRC) to prepare the sample for DNA profile testing after it had been inserted into the Qubit fluorometer for DNA quantification (which yielded no explicit quantitative result, but rather an indication that the amount of DNA in the sample was too low for the fluorometer to measure). We also know that the reference DNA of Kercher and other persons had been tested prior to the knife blade test, and it is a reasonable speculation that some of that DNA could have been inadvertently introduced into the knife blade sample during its preparation.

 

[Vixen]

Vixen:
DId Stefanoni state in court testimony that she and her lab followed ENFSI guidelines? Please provide the direct quote and citation from the court testimony to allow readers to understand her position.

Please provide the direct quote(s) and citation(s) where Conti and Vecciotti referred to "obscure American publications such as the Missouri State Highway Patrol Handbook and Wisconsin Crime Laboratory Physical Evidence Handbook". Were these quotes included in their report or in their court testimony? (Both the Missouri and Wisconsin forensic procedure guides are quite thorough and align well with internationally recognized procedures, BTW.)

It was a rebuke by Nencini.

Stefanoni doesn't need to tell the court she follows ENFSI; it is a given professional standard. Just like I follow my professional standards without needing to spell it out each time.



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[Vixen]

Really?! Hmmm, here, let me copy/paste section 8.2 from the Best Practice Manual for Scene of Crime Examination from ENFSI

APPROVED BY ENFSI BOARD ON 11.02.2022
BPM-SOC-01 Version 02 11-02-2022 21(39)

8.2 Preservation and Packaging

The material for recovery needs to be protected from interference or alteration and from the possibility of subsequent degradation and contamination. Health and safety issues must also be taken into consideration.

Suitable containment is normally achieved through the selection and correct use of approved packaging material. Packaging materials must be appropriate for the given applications and compliant with organizational SOPs.

Precautions must be taken to ensure the integrity of evidence, reduce the risk of contamination and minimize degradation. These will include:

● sealing containers to prevent accidental loss or contamination
● providing adequate protection to containers during transportation and storage to prevent loss through damage / contamination
● checking items at all stages of transfer throughout the chain of custody to ensure that their integrity has not been compromised
● all items should be packed and sealed as soon as they are taken, using bags or containers of an appropriate size

Packages should be sealed in such a way that all gaps are covered and secure, e.g. folded bags should be sealed with adhesive tape along all open edges and not by stapling.

Once sealed, packages should not be re-opened outside of the laboratory environment. If under exceptional circumstances they are re-opened then comprehensive documentation detailing the conditions under which they are opened must be made.

This is all pretty common sense stuff, though it does seem to be eluding you. So why don't you explain to us then what the "exceptional circumstances" that existed that required they open the sealed collection envelope.

It was sealed in a newly opened calendar wrapper. Bearing in mind Sollecito's knife drawer in his grotty flat is not a sterile environment, nor was Knox' bag in which she carried the knife to the cottage.


DNA is often difficult evidence for people to accept, possibly because is invisible to the human eye, people think it some kind of abstract concept 'out there'. Try to think of the DNA traces as dirty great bloody footprints - as on the bathmat - then you will see that the one on the blade being Mez' and the ones on the hilt AK's: you might be able to appreciate that there is no way they could have got there without the physical contact of the person identified as supplying it. Mez was on the end of that knife.






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[Vixen]

The people who made the Netflix documentary were:

Rod Blackhurst Brian McGinn

Matthew Hamachek Brian McGinn

Blackhurst Mette Heide Brian McGinn Stephen Robert Morse

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Do you have any evidence that any of them were "friends of AK" or is this just another invention of yours?

As for them "doctoring it", those are NOT the same photos. Notice the allegedly "doctored" one does not have the measuring tape above it nor does it have the swab. A "doctored" photo would have to be the same photo manipulated.



I don't call this C & V report finding that it was "definitively identified as Mez' DNA".

They did doctor it. My pic is a direct photo of what appeared on Netflix. Heavily darkened to hide the high level of illumination and with a great sign saying 'inconclusive', which was a blatant piece of misinformation designed to mislead the viewer.



The actual pic used as evidence in court and the DNA accepted as Mez' (not 'inconclusive' at all!) :





It's pretty disgusting when people deliberately set out to falsify the details of a horrible murder.





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[AmyStrange]

"It's pretty disgusting when people deliberately set out to falsify the details of a horrible murder."

My homemade, heavy-duty irony meter just exploded.


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[TruthCalls]

It was sealed in a newly opened calendar wrapper. Bearing in mind Sollecito's knife drawer in his grotty flat is not a sterile environment, nor was Knox' bag in which she carried the knife to the cottage.


DNA is often difficult evidence for people to accept, possibly because is invisible to the human eye, people think it some kind of abstract concept 'out there'. Try to think of the DNA traces as dirty great bloody footprints - as on the bathmat - then you will see that the one on the blade being Mez' and the ones on the hilt AK's: you might be able to appreciate that there is no way they could have got there without the physical contact of the person identified as supplying it. Mez was on the end of that knife.

Excuse me, but the point of the post was ENFSI clearly states;

Once sealed, packages should not be re-opened outside of the laboratory environment.

So ENFSI was NOT followed. This is a gross violation of procedures and protocols designed to mitigate contamination. Full stop.


Your baseless characterization of Raffaele's apartment doesn't change this.
Your baseless claim of Amanda carrying the knife in her bag doesn't change this.
It's entirely irrelevant whether Raffaele's apartment or Amanda's bag were sterile, the concern is what happens after the knife is in police custody.

And this is but one of multiple gross violations as has been cited countless times. That you continue to desperately downplay or excuse these violations proves your agenda is to argue for their guilt, the facts be damned. That's shameful. Just admit this was a gross violation that should never have happened.

 

[TruthCalls]

They did doctor it. My pic is a direct photo of what appeared on Netflix. Heavily darkened to hide the high level of illumination and with a great sign saying 'inconclusive', which was a blatant piece of misinformation designed to mislead the viewer.

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The actual pic used as evidence in court and the DNA accepted as Mez' (not 'inconclusive' at all!) :


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It's pretty disgusting when people deliberately set out to falsify the details of a horrible murder.

News flash... there is more than one photo of the knife, and this is clearly two different photos, not a doctored version of the same photo. There's a reflection on the blade in the top photo not present in the bottom photo. Darkening a photo will not introduce a reflection. But hey, we get it... you just can't help but accuse everyone of being dishonest and deceptive, which is ironic since that's what we all think of you and your approach to the case.

Oh, and it IS inconclusive because there were only 6 alleles of 50 RFU or above that matched Meredith, and that is insufficient to indicate a match. And before you babble on about how all <50 RFU peaks were consistent with Meredith, I would remind you there is a very good reason there is a minimum RFU value, and it's not considered an 'optional' threshold. Pointing out two courts chose to ignore the forensic standards Italy is committed to adhering to only proves the corruption of those courts. And, of course, those courts also chose to ignore the other violations made with this knife, including removing it from it's collection container not in a lab, but in the police station.

 

[Welshman]

If the case against Amanda and Raffaele was such a slam dunk and there was solid evidence against them, how do you explain the arguments Vixen has to resort to. Why is it necessary to claim Meredith's DNA was on a knife whose characteristics would have made it impossible for the knife to have been used to stab Meredith or contain her DNA on it.

The knife was picked at random with no other knives taken from Raffaele’s kitchen or the cottage. Is it credible a knife collected under these circumstances was the murder weapon.
The knife didn’t match a bloody imprint on the bed.
The knife was too large to have caused the two smaller wounds.
There was bruising on the fatal wound which indicated the knife had gone all the way in. The length of the fatal wound was 8 cm whilst the length of the knife was 17 cm which indicated the knife couldn’t have caused the larger wound.
The knife didn’t have any blood or human biological material on it.
The defence had no objection to the knife being opened while the prosecution didn’t want the knife opened.
The defence wanted independent experts to examine the knife.

If there was a solid DNA profile the prosecution would not need to resort to the tactics detailed below.

• The prosecution concealed the initial results for tests performed on the two key items of evidence , i.e., the kitchen knife (Rep. 36B) and the bra-clasp (Rep. 165B), and instead, produced only the results of suspicious “do over” tests (reruns), without disclosing the data from the initial tests or even the fact that the subsequent tests are “do overs”.
• The prosecution concealed that the kitchen knife profile was generated within a series of tests for which 90 percent of the results have been suppressed, strongly suggesting the occurrence of a severe contamination event that the prosecution continues to hide.
• The prosecution concealed the initial results for tests performed on the two key items of evidence , i.e., the kitchen knife (Rep. 36B) and the bra-clasp (Rep. 165B), and instead, produced only the results of suspicious “do over” tests (reruns), without disclosing the data from the initial tests or even the fact that the subsequent tests are “do overs”.
• The prosecution concealed that the kitchen knife profile was generated within a series of tests for which 90 percent of the results have been suppressed, strongly suggesting the occurrence of a severe contamination event that the prosecution continues to hide.

Stefanoni told the following lie. Why resort to lying if there was a solid DNA profile?​

"Amount of DNA on the knife blade​

Patrizia Stefanoni claimed the amount of DNA on the knife blade was “in the order of some hundreds of picograms”. She claimed quantification had been performed by real-time PCR, which was untrue ( see C-V report – Knife quantification ).

The truth: A test was performed with a Qubit Fluorometer which was negative (no DNA). Two other previous tests for blood were also negative. Cytological tests that should have been performed were not. The test results after PCR (very low RFU), and a failure to perform negative control tests or implement adequate measures to prevent contamination, suggest contamination occurred from previous tests of Meredith’s DNA, that is Meredith’s DNA was not on the knife blade.

Reference: DNA-analysis"

 

[Bill Williams]

Vixen writes:

It's pretty disgusting when people deliberately set out to falsify the details of a horrible murder.

Anyone who wants to make a case against AK and/or RS should stay away from that knife. The knife, kept at Raffaele's, had to have made an innocent journey to the cottage.... why? Because every court, including the convicting ones, found that the murder was not premeditated....

So - why did they transport the knife?

Also, the police technician, Stefanani, said that the so-called incriminating piece of material had survived an obvious bleach-washing of the blade, by being stuck in a striation in it. A striation no one else could see.

But which convicting court judge excused, because Stefanoni had spotted the striation under a bright light, held at a special angle... as if no one else would have thought of that, or as if no one else had had a light as bright as Stefanoni's.

This case is 11 years definitively decided, decided in an acquittal. That knife itself, is proof that the police had gone out of their way to convict innocent people.

So I agree - when YOU go out to deliberately falsify the details of a horrible murder, you should be ashamed.

 

[Numbers]

It was a rebuke by Nencini.

Stefanoni doesn't need to tell the court she follows ENFSI; it is a given professional standard. Just like I follow my professional standards without needing to spell it out each time.

Vixen, thanks for bringing up your misleading claims, even if borrowed from Nencini, about the sources cited by Conti and Vecchiotti in their report. It led me to re-read a large section of their report. I would encourage readers here who may not have read the C&V report, or like me have read it years ago and have forgotten some of the extensive details they present on the methods and procedures required in forensic DNA profile testing, including in those cases where the amount of DNA in a sample is exceeding small (LCN DNA: low copy number DNA).

The best source for a full-text English translation of the C&V report is contained in a series of web pages beginning at:

Contents

Assignment [Incarico] Tests [Operazioni Peritali] Description of Item 36 (Knife) [Descrizione del Rep. 36 (Coltello)] Laboratory Analyis of Item 36 [Analisi di Laboratorio sul Rep. 36] Description…

knoxdnareport.wordpress.com

The C&V report presents many sources in their discussion on inspection and collection techniques for presumed evidence required to minimize contamination so that subsequent DNA testing is likely to be reliable. The ENFSI and Interpol sources are provided last in a rather long annotated list of sources that includes but is not limited to US academic, state, and federal sources. It's possible that sources with this type of detailed information on crime scene management and DNA evidence collection were not available in Italian at the relevant time. Here are some of the sources listed:

Guidance on the Production of Best Practice Manuals within ENFSI, ref cod. QCC-BPM-008, 01/05/2008,
Interpol Handbook on DNA Data Exchange and Practice – Recommendations from the Interpol DNA Monitoring Expert Group – second edition 2009:
Techniques of Crime Scene Investigation (by Barry Fisher, CRC ed. 2003)
Crime Scene Investigation – A guide for Law Enforcement (US Dept. of Justice, January 2000)
Crime Scene Investigation: a Reference for Law Enforcement Training (US Dept. of Justice, June 2004
Handbook of Forensic Services (Laboratory Division, FBI, US Dept. of Justice, 2007)

Also included in the sources are the handbooks on crime scene management and DNA evidence collection from 5 US states, including Missouri and Wisconsin.

It should be clear that the information provided in the sources provided by C&V are not country-specific laws or practices, but rather the general scientific and technological methods required to achieve reliable collection of DNA evidence. A simple analogy would be an engineering text on bridge building; one of the key principles would be that the bridge must be supported adequately so that the worst-case anticipated moving loads on the bridge don't result in the bridge collapsing. That is a general principle true in every place on earth.

Source: https://knoxdnareport.wordpress.com...otes-on-inspection-and-collection-techniques/

 

[Vixen]

Excuse me, but the point of the post was ENFSI clearly states;

Once sealed, packages should not be re-opened outside of the laboratory environment.

So ENFSI was NOT followed. This is a gross violation of procedures and protocols designed to mitigate contamination. Full stop.


Your baseless characterization of Raffaele's apartment doesn't change this.
Your baseless claim of Amanda carrying the knife in her bag doesn't change this.
It's entirely irrelevant whether Raffaele's apartment or Amanda's bag were sterile, the concern is what happens after the knife is in police custody.

And this is but one of multiple gross violations as has been cited countless times. That you continue to desperately downplay or excuse these violations proves your agenda is to argue for their guilt, the facts be damned. That's shameful. Just admit this was a gross violation that should never have happened.

You still cannot get your head around the fact DNA does not fly around, contrary to what Stefano Conti might have said in the AK/RS Netflix propaganda film. Even Peter Gill affirms that secondary transfer of DNA is rare and would need to happen within 24 hrs. Think about the footprint on the bathmat. It is lodged there. Stamped upon it. Impressed. Absolutely embedded. No one can come along and 'accidentally or purposefully transfer it elsewhere. Likewise, someone's DNA on a bra clasp - or on a knife blade or handle - is there precisely because it has firmly either been gripped by that person or someone took the knife to their flesh.


Have a think about whether Mez' DNA could have somehow 'jumped' onto this knife completely out of nowhere. If a footprint cannot, neither can a person's DNA imprint.

 

[Vixen]

News flash... there is more than one photo of the knife, and this is clearly two different photos, not a doctored version of the same photo. There's a reflection on the blade in the top photo not present in the bottom photo. Darkening a photo will not introduce a reflection. But hey, we get it... you just can't help but accuse everyone of being dishonest and deceptive, which is ironic since that's what we all think of you and your approach to the case.

Oh, and it IS inconclusive because there were only 6 alleles of 50 RFU or above that matched Meredith, and that is insufficient to indicate a match. And before you babble on about how all <50 RFU peaks were consistent with Meredith, I would remind you there is a very good reason there is a minimum RFU value, and it's not considered an 'optional' threshold. Pointing out two courts chose to ignore the forensic standards Italy is committed to adhering to only proves the corruption of those courts. And, of course, those courts also chose to ignore the other violations made with this knife, including removing it from it's collection container not in a lab, but in the police station.

There were 15-alleles - Mez' near-full DNA profile.




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