Ed Applying luma curve to photos and footage

[nt1]

I infer you believe you have detected signs of manipulation in this video and are considering whether it is poor fakery or deliberate intent to discredit the original.


I presume you appreciate that the various videos made on 9/11 were recorded on video tape, and the investigators would have sought those original tapes and not download copies from YouTube a decade or more later.

I know all of this. In fact. Thank you for asking. Here are 2000 era videos by similar cameras.

I understand fully what you are saying and it is true. We are not dealing with that in my examples.

There is a solid masking line around that building. unbroken. I didnt find this yeaterday and run here with it in my hands.

Halo. Masking. Everywhere. Its not explainable by conversion or compression.

Yes. There are many examples of it being exactly what you said. That wall right there is not one of them.

 

[nt1]

Why is the "masking line" only on sunlit edges?

Jack. Its not.

Enjoy your day guys.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

There is a solid masking line around that building. unbroken.

What manipulation does one need to perform to reveal the entirely invisible masking line down the left side of the building?

 

[nt1]

I infer you believe you have detected signs of manipulation in this video and are considering whether it is poor fakery or deliberate intent to discredit the original.


I presume you appreciate that the various videos made on 9/11 were recorded on video tape, and the investigators would have sought those original tapes and not download copies from YouTube a decade or more later.

Jack. I would be more than happy to go through as many examples and compare them with footage and cameras of the same era. I didnt run here with one example and i also asked for someone to name a piece of footage. Ill be back with some wtc 7 footage pre 9/11 in the sun with a like camera and no "masking line".


I would be happy to go over many things. With anybody. **** I'd take one person that truly cared. Sad. No unexpected. But always makes me sad. Enjoy your day.

 

[nt1]

What manipulation does one need to perform to reveal the entirely invisible masking line down the left side of the building?

Are you asking how to do it yourself?

 

[Steve]

Anyone here know what this thread is actually about? Is there a point attempting to be made that warrants discussion?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

You got a suggested video and you have shown some screenshots with a remarkably clear and high resolution white line along the portion of the roofline shown.

What I'd like to know is what tools would someone else need and what settings would they use to replicate these results for themselves? If there really is a similarly clear white line all around the building, including down the left side, it is entirely invisible to me in the video you were originally linked to. Please tell us what one would need to do with that original video to reveal the line.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Are you asking how to do it yourself?

Yes.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

This is the video you started with:


There is no masking line visible around the building, certainly not down the left side. Nevertheless you tell us that the line is there. Okay, what tools does one need to use to enhance the video to reveal the unbroken line?

 

[nt1]

Yes.

Any free photoshop app for your phone.

Photo Editor - Apps on Google Play

Photo Editor is a small but powerful photo editing application

play.google.com

Photo Curves - Color Grading - Apps on Google Play

Color correction - Color Wheels, RGB/CMYK/LAB/HSL curves, create 3D LUT files.

play.google.com

Curve

Curve manipulation



You must be careful because just like you said old footage does behave in strange ways. And for instance here is wtc7. 2000. And you WILL see a black line like i showed. But upon playing with the light youll be able to spot it. There will be physically impossible things.

This is not conclusive. What it is. Is cause for investigation by professionals. There are things in the footage that are physically impossible for light to do in any type of footage.

Notice in the 2000 footage that black line is a luminescent line because of the sun and it is unbroken. But it travels with all the buildings. Notice it does behave the same in the 7 footage. Notice the 2000 footage the all buildings turn black when adjusted. It wont in the 7 footage.

Also, please consider. I took a screen record of rhe first thing so eone handed me to show unbias and confident there would be an anomaly not matched elsewhere. There are better and worse examples.

There is strong evidence of composite footage or the purposeful look of composite footage. I dont have all the answers and i dont want any recognition. Its free for all to use and abuse and critique.


Running with it or dismissing it is the incorrect answer. There are physically impossible anomalies due to light, in almost all footage. What that means. I dont know. some of you should be ashamed of yourself and some of you, thank you for listening

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Can you be a bit more specific? What settings of gamma, contrast or brightness did you use to reveal a masking line down the left side of the building?

I don't expect you to provide one setting which makes a line pop out visibly around the entire building but you did claim the line was continuous so it seems not unreasonable to ask what settings you found you needed to use to reveal the line continues down the left side.

Can you do that?

 

[nt1]

This is the video you started with:


There is no masking line visible around the building, certainly not down the left side. Nevertheless you tell us that the line is there. Okay, what tools does one need to use to enhance the video to reveal the unbroken line?

Jack. The tone of this forum is disgusting. You are the first one to ask tough questions and i enjoy that. I spend everyday researching and questioning many things in science. Then i question myself. Then i continueapplying what i think ive learned. I didnt come here after day two of seeing a line around a building.

Im not sure hanging out with you guys is worth the effort.

 

[Thermal]

The implication here seems to be that... Building 7 or maybr 1&2 didn't really go down, but it was all faked video? I mean, NYC is a real town, with a lot of real people in it... who noticed the building kind of abruptly... wasn't standing anymore?

 

[nt1]

Can you be a bit more specific? What settings of gamma, contrast or brightness did you use to reveal a masking line down the left side of the building?

I don't expect you to provide one setting which makes a line pop out visibly around the entire building but you did claim the line was continuous so it seems not unreasonable to ask what settings you found you needed to use to reveal the line continues down the left side.

Can you do that?

Yes.

I am absolutely no expert nor trained. I will tell you what ive found to work and not work and what i believe gives false results and what shows cause for concern.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Good lord!!!!!

Ok. Ok. Ok.

Here

What do you think that video shows?

What point are you making with it?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Again, what do you think that video shows us?

What point are you making?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Did i send you your homework? Jack. If you werent one of the ones being argumentative foe the sake of it, I apologize for my tone. But, no. Science right? Nature right? Humanism right? Natural light cannot be replicated.

Clear as mud.

Good one.

Masking varwoche. masking. The building has a masking line around it. There is a masking line around the building. On the building is a masking line. The masking line is around the face of the building.

People watched the building collapse. What do you think is being masked?

 

[Andy_Ross]

I know all of this. In fact. Thank you for asking. Here are 2000 era videos by similar cameras.

I understand fully what you are saying and it is true. We are not dealing with that in my examples.

There is a solid masking line around that building. unbroken. I didnt find this yeaterday and run here with it in my hands.

Halo. Masking. Everywhere. Its not explainable by conversion or compression.

Yes. There are many examples of it being exactly what you said. That wall right there is not one of them.

WHy do you think there is a masking line?
What is it's purpose in that video?

 

[nt1]

The implication here seems to be that... Building 7 or maybr 1&2 didn't really go down, but it was all faked video? I mean, NYC is a real town, with a lot of real people in it... who noticed the building kind of abruptly... wasn't standing anymore?

Implications.

Some quick ones. There could be others.

1.Footage is manipulated.
2.Footage is real and manipulated after to cause confusion or other reasons.
3. Nt1 is an idiot

All i can say is I am not here on day two, waving a picture around, and i was confident enough to ask for someone to pick a card any card. (Choose any footage)

 

[Andy_Ross]

Jack. I would be more than happy to go through as many examples and compare them with footage and cameras of the same era. I didnt run here with one example and i also asked for someone to name a piece of footage. Ill be back with some wtc 7 footage pre 9/11 in the sun with a like camera and no "masking line".


I would be happy to go over many things. With anybody. **** I'd take one person that truly cared. Sad. No unexpected. But always makes me sad. Enjoy your day.

tell us why you think there are masking lines. What is their purpose in those videos in your opinion.