Trump's Second Term

hahaha that's nuts, it's up there with the time he served fast food to clemson in just a complete lack of awareness. that guy was making fun of him and he didn't even realize it
 
shemp said:
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The current President, Donald Trump, walked into a wall yesterday when he was leaving the Capitol after speaking to the press with House Majority Leader Mike Johnson. If we're going to bring up Biden's ability while in office, let's not leave Trump out.
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Watch the short video. No cognitive problems at all, right?
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The column is behind Trump in the picture. It is just a coincidence that Trump gets redirected at the precise moment when his face seems to be at the column.

ETA: Ninja’ed by Shrinker (y)
 
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dirtywick said:
hahaha that's nuts, it's up there with the time he served fast food to clemson in just a complete lack of awareness. that guy was making fun of him and he didn't even realize it
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It doesn't matter. To the GOP and their supporters he completely pwned the n-word and that's why he's the greatest president ever....
 
Think she was pissed about leaks before . . ?

Leaked Emails Show How Tulsi Gabbard's Top Aide Pushed to Alter Intelligence Report So It Couldn't Be 'Used Against' Trump​

Gabbard's chief of staff, Joe Kent, reportedly instructed the National Intelligence Council to edit official assessments so that they aligned with Trump’s statements about Venezuelan gang activity.
  • leaked emails show that Tulsi Gabbard's top aide urged intelligence officials to change their findings on Venezuelan gang activity in order to align with statements President Trump has made on immigration.
  • Gabbard’s acting chief of staff, Joe Kent, emailed the National Intelligence Council about their report, writing, “We need to do some rewriting so this document is not used against [Gabbard] or POTUS.”
  • Gabbard, who serves as the director of national intelligence, later fired two top intelligence officials over the fallout from the report.
  • Tulsi Gabbard’s right-hand man allegedly directed a group of intelligence officials to alter their report on Venezuelan gang activity so that it would align with statements President Donald Trump has made on immigration.


    In newly leaked emails obtained by The New York Times, Gabbard's acting chief of staff, Joe Kent, offered the unusual instructions for the National Intelligence Council on April 3.


    “We need to do some rewriting so this document is not used against the DNI or POTUS,” he wrote, with acronyms referring to Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, and the president.
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They're firing the wrong people.
 
Rubio just said that The Regime does not have to abide by court orders. The judicial has no authority over The Regime.
 
dudalb said:
Not a good comparasion, gvien the history of Speer.
Of course, I think the two will part their ways before too long.
Trump;s has decided to continue his campaign against electric cars. SO if Musk was hoping to get concessions from Trump, he has failed.
Allhe has gotten is a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored.
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and all it cost him was everything
 
dirtywick said:
and all it cost him was everything
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If only that were true. The truth is that Musk has gotten a lot out of his time with power over the government, pretty much all of it to the detriment of the American people as a whole, to international relations and the world, and to the government directly. That corruption, traitorous action, and over the top callous evil has led to significant backlash from the common folk like you and I, certainly, but make no mistake, he's made out like a bandit from the Trump Administration, itself, rather than just getting "a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored" that has cost him everything.
 
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Aridas said:
If only that were true. The truth is that Musk has gotten a lot out of his time with power over the government, pretty much all of it to the detriment of the American people as a whole, to international relations and the world, and to the government directly. That corruption, traitorous action, and over the top callous evil has led to significant backlash from the common folk like you and I, certainly, but make no mistake, he's made out like a bandit from the Trump Administration, itself, rather than just getting "a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored" that has cost him everything.
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Still, something has happened and the Trump/Musk bromance is over.

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Aridas said:
If only that were true. The truth is that Musk has gotten a lot out of his time with power over the government, pretty much all of it to the detriment of the American people as a whole, to international relations and the world, and to the government directly. That corruption, traitorous action, and over the top callous evil has led to significant backlash from the common folk like you and I, certainly, but make no mistake, he's made out like a bandit from the Trump Administration, itself, rather than just getting "a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored" that has cost him everything.
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i don’t think so. i think the company he’s the face of is over leveraged and in exchange for temporarily getting rid of a bunch of fraud investigations he’s become one of the most hated people on the planet that nobody takes seriously. and he’s outlived his usefulness and been cast out, and the lack of fundamentals at tesla are going to take out the stock, and he’ll see margin calls.

none of this is over yet.
 
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Rubio just said that The Regime does not have to abide by court orders. The judicial has no authority over The Regime.
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It's important to understand what he means. The decision of what makes good policy is a political question. Political questions are generally considered nonjusticiable. It's none of the court's business whether some policy is a good idea. That's decided by voters in various ways through their elected leaders and subordinate officers. And the executive branch has fairly unfettered authority to decide what good foreign policy should look like, and how to pursue it.

But—and it's an important "but"—a court can very much decide whether a policy is being pursued in a lawful way. If the law governing student visas describes the process for revoking them, and the criteria for doing so, the Secretary of State cannot just ignore that. The voters decide (often badly) whether a policy is good, but a court decides whether a policy is lawful; more precisely, whether a policy is being pursued lawfully. That includes the Constitution. Regardless of what your policy preference is, you can't make it happen in a way that violates the Constitution. And a court has the authority to tell you whether your actions in furtherance of a policy goal are lawful.

The administration is going to try to insist that courts are overreaching their authority, that they are encroaching upon sacred ground belonging to the executive. And they're going to maintain this conflation, hoping you won't be able to see the difference between what is discretionary authority and what is the simple obligation to obey the law.
 
dirtywick said:
The truth is that Musk has gotten a lot out of his time with power over the government, pretty much all of it to the detriment of the American people as a whole, to international relations and the world, and to the government directly. That corruption, traitorous action, and over the top callous evil has led to significant backlash from the common folk like you and I, certainly, but make no mistake, he's made out like a bandit from the Trump Administration, itself, rather than just getting "a unpaid job writing a report that will probably be ignored" that has cost him everything.
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i don’t think so. i think the company he’s the face of is over leveraged and in exchange for temporarily getting rid of a bunch of fraud investigations he’s become one of the most hated people on the planet that nobody takes seriously. and he’s outlived his usefulness and been cast out, and the lack of fundamentals at tesla are going to take out the stock, and he’ll see margin calls.

none of this is over yet.
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I think Musk's association with Trump has been a mixed blessing.

Yes, he seems to have single-handedly destroyed the reputation of Tesla, alienating its main customer base. But I think he did more than just "temporarily get rid of a bunch of fraud investigations". Even if a later administration decides to reverse course and actually go after Musk for bad business practices, the federal government has been so decimated with job cuts that they may not have the manpower to do the work.

Now, was it a worthwhile exchange for Musk? (Tesla's value crash vs. ending various investigations)? Probably not. But its possible that he 1) just incorrectly estimated the backlash he would get from associating with Trump, and 2) Is so wealthy that he just doesn't care. Or maybe he is planning/expecting that if he gets forced out of his position at Tesla, stock values would eventually rebound and his personal value would skyrocket.
 
JayUtah said:
It's important to understand what he means. The decision of what makes good policy is a political question. Political questions are generally considered nonjusticiable.
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But—and it's an important "but"—a court can very much decide whether a policy is being pursued in a lawful way.
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You are right in that courts have the ability to determine if a policy is pursued in a lawful way.

The question is, what happens if the courts say "you are doing things in an illegal way" but the administration does not change its actions, either by repeated appeals used as a delaying tactic, or outright ignoring the court rulings. What do they do then?

I suppose they could find the government in contempt, but would that stop Trump? And what would the punishment be? Would they start jailing various lawyers for Trump until they started to behave? Fine the government? Trump probably wouldn't care if either of those were done.

Court rulings are only useful if you either 1) have people follow them voluntarily because they respect law and order, or 2) have people willing enforce any punishment. Its possible that neither of those apply.
 
Segnosaur said:
I think Musk's association with Trump has been a mixed blessing.

Yes, he seems to have single-handedly destroyed the reputation of Tesla, alienating its main customer base. But I think he did more than just "temporarily get rid of a bunch of fraud investigations". Even if a later administration decides to reverse course and actually go after Musk for bad business practices, the federal government has been so decimated with job cuts that they may not have the manpower to do the work.

Now, was it a worthwhile exchange for Musk? (Tesla's value crash vs. ending various investigations)? Probably not. But its possible that he 1) just incorrectly estimated the backlash he would get from associating with Trump, and 2) Is so wealthy that he just doesn't care. Or maybe he is planning/expecting that if he gets forced out of his position at Tesla, stock values would eventually rebound and his personal value would skyrocket.
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imo the next admin goes after him, and others, for his involvement in doge. i don’t think this admin can limp this along for 4 years.
 
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