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Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

Read the Supreme Court judgment. It specifically states that women who have masculinised themselves so much that their presence in women's single-sex spaces would be problematic, may be excluded.
Or just ones who naturally are not feminine enough, plenty of cis women get mistaken for trans and they should be excluded too. WOmen have to fit a certain mold after all
 
The result would be no more push for transwomen to enter female spaces, because it's likely there wouldn't be any transwomen.
Even Blanchard didn't go so far as to claim that everyone who wants to change sex does so for erotic reasons.
 
I believe everyone needs to evacuate their bowels and bladders. Where they do it matters little to me. I hope that it is sanitary. I can appreciate a certain desire for privacy. That is why there are stalls. Beyond that, I don't care.
We're not just talking about public restrooms. There's also locker rooms, spas, shelters, doctor's offices, prisons...
It's not there, I don't give a damn.
This kind of immediate dismissal of women's concerns, and minimizing of the implications and impact of self-ID to override sex segregation, is fairly toxic. I don't think this is the best you have to offer on this topic.
 
I believe everyone needs to evacuate their bowels and bladders. Where they do it matters little to me. I hope that it is sanitary. I can appreciate a certain desire for privacy. That is why there are stalls. Beyond that, I don't care.
It's funny (not funny ha-ha though) how often it's males who don't care that males are invading female spaces and making females feel intimidated or uncomfortable. It also seems like a whole lot of males think that females should alter our general bathroom behavior so that we act like males in the restroom instead of being allowed to interact with each other the way that we normally do.
 
Or just ones who naturally are not feminine enough, plenty of cis women get mistaken for trans and they should be excluded too. WOmen have to fit a certain mold after all
Masculine women have not been a problem in the entire history of sex segregation of public restrooms. This is an entirely artificial concern. I don't think this is the best you have to offer on this topic.

@acbytesla , is this the kind of thing you had in mind, when you said you hated this topic?
 
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Masculine women have not been a problem in the entire history of sex segregation of public restrooms. This is an entirely artificial concern. I don't think this is the best you have to offer on this topic.

@acbytesla , is this the kind of thing you had in mind, when you said you hated this topic?

It can't be more than a page or two since I told you all about my friend Bridget, and how she gets challenged in the Ladies at least once a month, and how she and the other woman deal with it, and how nobody gets assaulted, nobody dies and it's pretty much a nothing-burger.
 
It can't be more than a page or two since I told you all about my friend Bridget, and how she gets challenged in the Ladies at least once a month, and how she and the other woman deal with it, and how nobody gets assaulted, nobody dies and it's pretty much a nothing-burger.
I know, right?

I think acbytesla has a point, about this topic not bringing out the best people have to offer. He's just looking at the wrong people when he says it.
 
We're not just talking about public restrooms. There's also locker rooms, spas, shelters, doctor's offices, prisons...
Then they should be addressed uniquely.

This kind of immediate dismissal of women's concerns, and minimizing of the implications and impact of self-ID to override sex segregation, is fairly toxic. I don't think this is the best you have to offer on this topic.
I don't think so. I am far more concerned about how males with toxic masculinity deal with the issue than a rare encounter in a woman's bathroom where they think the person might be a male dressed as a female.
 
Then they should be addressed uniquely.
Why? Sex segregation has always addressed them all equally well.
I don't think so. I am far more concerned about how males with toxic masculinity deal with the issue than a rare encounter in a woman's bathroom where they think the person might be a male dressed as a female.
Everything we've seen about the expansion of trans rights in public policy tells us that males with toxic masculinity aren't the big problem (except in the sense that trans rights activism tends to champion men at the expense of women, which is textbook toxic masculinity).

I still don't think this is the best you have to offer, on this topic.
 
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Why? Sex segregation has always addressed them all equally well.

Everything we've seen about the expansion of trans rights in public policy tells us that males with toxic masculinity aren't the big problem (except in the sense that trans rights activism tends to champion men at the expense of women, which is textbook toxic masculinity).

I still don't think this is the best you have to offer, on this topic.
You're wrong. Trans individuals are 4 times more likely to be murdered and 6 times more likely to be assaulted than the general public. My guess is that women aren't assaulting and killing them .
 
Trans individuals are 4 times more likely to be murdered and 6 times more likely to be assaulted than the general public.
I'd be surprised to learn that trans men are more likely to be murdered than natal males.

Where can I find your homicide stats broken out by birth sex and target sex?
 
Transgender individuals experience significantly higher rates of both assault and murder compared to cisgender individuals.
Here's a breakdown of the issue:
1. Disproportionate Victimization:
Transgender people are over four times more likely to be victims of violent crime than cisgender people.
2. Elevated Risk of Fatal Violence:
Homicide rates for transgender individuals, especially young Black and Latina trans women, are disproportionately high.
Between 2017 and 2021, murders of trans people in the U.S. nearly doubled, with a 93% increase in tracked homicides.
3. Impact of Discrimination and Marginalization:
Transgender individuals often face discrimination in housing, employment, and healthcare, leading to increased vulnerability to violence.
A significant percentage of transgender homicide victims experience homelessness or housing insecurity.
4. Role of Firearms:
Gun violence is a major factor in the high rates of fatal violence against transgender people.
In 2023, guns were used in 80% of homicides of transgender and gender-expansive people.
5. Disproportionate Impact on Transgender Women of Color:
Black transgender women are particularly vulnerable, facing the highest rates of fatal violence within the transgender community.
Over 60% of gun homicides of transgender and gender-expansive people from 2017 to 2023 were of Black trans women.
6. Intimate Partner and Family Violence:
A significant portion of transgender homicide victims are killed by intimate partners or family members.
In Conclusion:
The data demonstrates that transgender individuals face a severe and disproportionate risk of assault and murder, highlighting the urgent need to address violence and discrimination against this community.
 
Then they should be addressed uniquely.
Now there's a bagful of conflicting laws in the making!

I don't think so. I am far more concerned about how males with toxic masculinity deal with the issue than a rare encounter in a woman's bathroom where they think the person might be a male dressed as a female.
They are not "rare encounters", they are quite frequent but simply not reported, because under the current laws, the women doing the reporting will be labelled bigots and transphobes and could end up being arrested themselves. If you can be descended upon by half a dozen police constables armed with batons and pepper spray, handcuffed and imprisoned for eight hours for nothing more than a hurty Tweet, there is no telling what can happen if you offend TRAs and their allies, the "thought police"


...and for those who will claim this has nothing to do with TIMs in female bathrooms, take your ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ blinkers off for a moment.

Firstly, the tweet wasn't anti-Jewish - the cops misread it out of context. The very fact they would go after someone with such overkill for a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Tweet is the problem.

Secondly, the fact that this man was apologized to and the NCHI revoked is irrelevant. This type of police action has a chilling effect on free-speech because the process IS the punishment. These sorts of incidents have much wider implications... the abrogation of free speech impacts EVERY walk of life, including the rights of women to tell males invading their safe spaces to GTFO!!
 
Transgender individuals experience significantly higher rates of both assault and murder compared to cisgender individuals.
Here's a breakdown of the issue:
1. Disproportionate Victimization:
Transgender people are over four times more likely to be victims of violent crime than cisgender people.
2. Elevated Risk of Fatal Violence:
Homicide rates for transgender individuals, especially young Black and Latina trans women, are disproportionately high.
Between 2017 and 2021, murders of trans people in the U.S. nearly doubled, with a 93% increase in tracked homicides.
3. Impact of Discrimination and Marginalization:
Transgender individuals often face discrimination in housing, employment, and healthcare, leading to increased vulnerability to violence.
A significant percentage of transgender homicide victims experience homelessness or housing insecurity.
4. Role of Firearms:
Gun violence is a major factor in the high rates of fatal violence against transgender people.
In 2023, guns were used in 80% of homicides of transgender and gender-expansive people.
5. Disproportionate Impact on Transgender Women of Color:
Black transgender women are particularly vulnerable, facing the highest rates of fatal violence within the transgender community.
Over 60% of gun homicides of transgender and gender-expansive people from 2017 to 2023 were of Black trans women.
6. Intimate Partner and Family Violence:
A significant portion of transgender homicide victims are killed by intimate partners or family members.
In Conclusion:
The data demonstrates that transgender individuals face a severe and disproportionate risk of assault and murder, highlighting the urgent need to address violence and discrimination against this community.
All of which has nothing whatever to do with women's shelters, rape crisis centres, prisons, bathrooms, changing rooms or women's sport, and none if which should be shouldered upon women to sort out.

And have a look at the stats for women (biological females) sometime!
 
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