So what form does the resistance take?

arthwollipot said:
If the question is of the format "x or y?" and the answer is "yes", that generally implies both.

I thought that was a pretty common thing.
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Maybe as a colloquialism, but looking at it strictly logically you can answer "yes" to an "X or Y" question if the answer is either X or Y, or both. The only possibility a "yes" answer doesn't cover is if it's neither X nor Y.

(I spent several hours today optimizing some messy SQL, and part of it was removing "or" statements because they can be resource hogs.)
 
Hlafordlaes said:
There is only one way to be sure of winning back power in a reliable fashion, assuming elections are still held, and that is to break the GOP hold on the electoral college, and lessen their presence in the Senate. This requires something along the line of progressives actually moving into the least populated red states, possibly via corporate relocation, and attempting to tip the balance. Probably way too late, and the trend is exactly the opposite. making matters far worse.
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So in a country that has been taken over by the billionaires' corporate interests and has already started 'relocating' parts of the population to prisons in El Salvador, your solution is to hope that the corporations belonging to the billionaires will begin to relocate people in a way that serves Democrats in an election 18 months from now?
You do know that those "least populated red states" are currently making it intolerable for progressives to live and work there, aren't you?
Hlafordlaes said:
If not, emigration. The pitchfork class owns the country due to fake, made-up states and a rigged electoral college.
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The pitchfork class doesn't own the country. The pitchfork class obeys the people who own the country, and those people are also the ones who pay politicians to rig the electoral college.

You are basically saying the same thing James Carville is saying:
It's Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats (NYT, Feb 25, 2025)
There will probably be more enormous tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts hitting a lot of other people, but there is nothing the American public despises more than disorder and a broken economy.
And there's nothing Democrats can legitimately do to stop it, even if we wanted to.
With no clear leader to voice our opposition and no control in any branch of government, it's time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead.
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In a system rigged to secure election results like the most recent elections, the opposition has to abide by the rules:
'There's really nothing we can do about it but play possum and hope that the 'pitchfork class' will change their minds and start voting Democratic, so we can get back to the conditions that caused the current situation with the 0.1 percenters in charge and able to use their tax cuts to buy even more politicians next time.
It is pretty clear that James Carville and his class can live comfortably while doing nothing and hoping for the best. Their stocks and bonds probably won't suffer too much, and they don't belong to that class of people who will be affected by "Medicaid cuts."
Ben Shapiro video on Facebook, Feb 25, 2025:
James Carville: What I've said very publicly: The Democrats need to play possum. This whole thing is collapsing. It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody screaming to pacify some progressive advocacy groups in Washington, which, by the way, I wish these people were just useless. They're actually worse than useless, that they're detrimental, and they never ever learned to shut up. So then this is what I believe: I believe that this administration in less than 30 days in the midst of a massive collapse, in particularly a collapse in public opinion.
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We all know those screaming Radical Left lunatics like Elizabeth Warren (of all people!), don't we?
We can't have them try to raise opposition to the 'pitchfork class' and the oligarchs riling them up, can we?!
Let's wait for conditions to collapse entirely because we can't resort to doing anything illegitimate!
 
Clutch Cargo said:
Yes, correct.

An exaggeration.
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No. My father was in the Navy and most of his deployments were two years each. That is by no means atypical. If we couldn't have gone to live on base with him that would have left my mom with two kids on her own.

Clutch Cargo said:
Military service is voluntary.
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Forum rules do not permit me to respond as clearly as I'd like to that.
 
TragicMonkey said:
No. My father was in the Navy and most of his deployments were two years each. That is by no means atypical.
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And were you allowed to live on board with him? No, I didn't think so.
TragicMonkey said:
If we couldn't have gone to live on base with him that would have left my mom with two kids on her own.
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What did he expect?

["Voluntary military service"] >>>
TragicMonkey said:
Forum rules do not permit me to respond as clearly as I'd like to that.
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That's too bad because i suspect we'd agree much more on that subject than we do on the subject above..

BTW: I am a Vietnam Veteran. You don't think we had our families with us, do you?
 
Hercules56 said:
"Made up states"?

Which ones then are real?
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Textbook example: South and North Dakota. About five guys in each standing around a cow patch, making sure no Injuns try to bury their dead on holy ground. Four US Senators for that bunch is a g-damned travesty.

The Senate, ostensibly, represents differentiable regional interests such that there may be a patchwork of varying customs in coexistence as equals, or that a regional enterprise is not made inviable by the majority vote of disinterested parties. All part of a broader notion of self-determination. Note, however, that the purpose of a constitutional republic is to also restrain any local or national majority from violating fundamental rights (Alabama religious lynch mobs, for example). This last is exactly what is under severe attack today, with Trump and his ragtag SCOTUS clearly preparing for lynch mobs to have their way by devolving national matters to the states (case in point: abortion).

If I had my druthers, all the states west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies would amount to 3 or 4 large territories (much as they were before they were states). The subdivision into small, scarcely populated states skews representative democracy horribly toward ignorance financed by oligarchy (just as the cotton growers wanted; been there, done that).
 
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Trump Administration considering suspending Habeus COrpus becuase he US is being "invaded",
If Habeus Corpus goes,then it's time to invoker the second mandment to defend indivual rights..as much as some here dislike that.
 
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