Split Thread Diversity Equity and Inclusion and merit in employment etc

[johnny karate]

Do you have any examples of white people given an unfair advantage in civil service exams or other hiring policies?

You must be joking. There’s decades of scholarship on the subject. Here, let me hold your hand:

White Men Are Still Kings of the Job Market. Here’s Proof.

Or, you know, you could just take a look at Trump’s cabinet. Overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly unqualified.

 

[Hercules56]

You must be joking. There’s decades of scholarship on the subject. Here, let me hold your hand:

White Men Are Still Kings of the Job Market. Here’s Proof.

Or, you know, you could just take a look at Trump’s cabinet. Overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly unqualified.

Your link provides no specific examples of employers or government agencies who practiced discriminatory hiring or promotion policies that were designed to discriminate in favor of white people.

 

[bruto]

There's no social or cultural or unspoken bias, so it doesn't occur. All instances are individual. The connection between the dots is only conceptual. It's not written down, so problem solved.

 

[Hercules56]

Yes, exactly. You take issue with nonwhite people being given what you perceive to be unfair advantages but say nothing about white people being given unfair advantages.

Provide examples of private companies or govt entities that have a proven racist policy that gives whites an advantage over non-whites.

And are you suggesting the discriminatory policies I have given evidence for are in fact not unfair???

You think it's okay to discriminate based on race?

 

[johnny karate]

Your link provides no specific examples of employers or government agencies who practiced discriminatory hiring or promotion policies that were designed to discriminate in favor of white people.

You asked for examples of "white people given an unfair advantage in civil service exams or other hiring policies". These were provided, with numerous studies cited as evidence. I'll not be chasing your goalposts around.

 

[johnny karate]

Provide examples of private companies or govt entities that have a proven racist policy that gives whites an advantage over non-whites.

And are you suggesting the discriminatory policies I have given evidence for are in fact not unfair???

You think it's okay to discriminate based on race?

The argument I made is that you have expressed zero concern about the unfair advantages that white people receive in hiring practices, which are systemic and copiously documented. Your every post further validates my argument.

 

[Hercules56]

You asked for examples of "white people given an unfair advantage in civil service exams or other hiring policies". These were provided, with numerous studies cited as evidence. I'll not be chasing your goalposts around.

You gave no examples of specific civil service exams or govt entities that were found to be discriminating in favor of white persons.

 

[Hercules56]

The argument I made is that you have expressed zero concern about the unfair advantages that white people receive in hiring practices, which are systemic and copiously documented. Your every post further validates my argument.

Give some specific examples please.

 

[johnny karate]

You gave no examples of specific civil service exams or govt entities that were found to be discriminating in favor of white persons.

Your original request did not specify that, and again, I won't be chasing your goalposts as you retroactively narrow the parameters.

 

[johnny karate]

Give some specific examples please.

Already provided. Your bad faith engagement is becoming tedious.

 

[Hercules56]

Delete

 

[Hercules56]

The argument I made is that you have expressed zero concern about the unfair advantages that white people receive in hiring practices , which are systemic and copiously documented. Your every post further validates my argument.

Please give some specific examples of these practices. Please cite specific policies or employers.

 

[Hercules56]

Already provided. Your bad faith engagement is becoming tedious.

You have done no such thing.

You have not named a single employer, nor government agency, who has been accused of such a thing within the last 20 years.

 

[Trausti]

You must be joking. There’s decades of scholarship on the subject. Here, let me hold your hand:

White Men Are Still Kings of the Job Market. Here’s Proof.

Or, you know, you could just take a look at Trump’s cabinet. Overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly unqualified.

It's always a chuckle in these conversations that Asians cease to exist.

 

[Hercules56]

It's always a chuckle in these conversations that Asians cease to exist.

His link didn't provide any specific examples of any actual employers that have been found to discriminate against non-whites.

 

[Trausti]

His link didn't provide any specific examples of any actual employers that have been found to discriminate against non-whites.

Well, of course not. Faith-based belief doesn't require evidence. That's the whole point of faith.

 

[arthwollipot]

"The sky is blue."

"Please provide specific examples of the sky being blue, specific named organisations that have published policies that make the sky blue, and the names of the people who wrote these policies, including when and where they were publicly published."

 

[Hercules56]

"The sky is blue."

"Please provide specific examples of the sky being blue, specific named organisations that have published policies that make the sky blue, and the names of the people who wrote these policies, including when and where they were publicly published."

Wow, what a lame and pathetic and frankly, ignorant attempt to weasel out of supporting a claim with evidence.

 

[Trausti]

"The sky is blue."

"Please provide specific examples of the sky being blue, specific named organisations that have published policies that make the sky blue, and the names of the people who wrote these policies, including when and where they were publicly published."

Hitchens's razor.

 

[arthwollipot]

Wow, what a lame and pathetic and frankly, ignorant attempt to weasel out of supporting a claim with evidence.

Hitchens's razor.

Wow, what a predictable pair of responses.