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Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

Rolfe said:
Absolutely. I do not feel kindly towards the people who have been working their socks off to remove my rights for the past ten years. I have had it up to here with the tone police.
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You don't like answering for your tone. Got it.

I wouldn't like that either.
 
Because it disadvantages far far more people than might be advantaged by it, and there are other ways of assisting the small number of people who feel disadvantaged by the present arrangement.
 
Rolfe said:
Because it disadvantages far far more people than might be advantaged by it, and there are other ways of assisting the small number of people who feel disadvantaged by the present arrangement.
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The white woman sharing a public toilet with a black woman back in the 1960's felt disadvantaged too.
 
Mycroft said:
Make all bathrooms gender neutral then everyone has a place to go to the bathroom.

Any problems with that?
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Yes. The problem with that has been described at length already. Plus, as Rolfe correctly noted, everyone already has a place to go.

And of course, the TRAs don't want that either.
 
Mycroft said:
The white woman sharing a public toilet with a black woman back in the 1960's felt disadvantaged too.
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Every time someone tries to equate sex and race like this, I know they've lost. It's an intellectually dishonest argument, an attempt to borrow the moral standing of a different cause without earning it.
 
Mycroft said:
Nope. I do quite a bit on my own. I objected to going through your haystack for a needle you promised was there somewhere, then you refused to narrow that search to the information we were actually looking for.
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No, you demanded that I point you to a statement on reversibility of puberty blockers, when I had provided citations you asked for on the majority of children not persisting in trans identity after puberty. Which I have already pointed out multiple times. In addition, I have also posted evidence related to reversibility of puberty blockers in other posts, which you ignored. Therefore, I have no reason to think that you care if the claims you make are true, and your questioning of claims is just posturing, not a desire to learn anything.
 
d4m10n said:
Possibly because you aren't looking? She started her transition from basic white girl to something more diverse in 2011 and to judge by her Instagram she hasn't given up yet. I'm betting she spends a small fortune on hair care alone.
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As an aside, since race is a social construct, why couldn't a person change their race? If a white person can darken their skin and have the same social experiences as a black person, what is the difference?

With gender people point to things like pelvic bones, reproduction, puberty that does/does not involve mensuration but none of that applies to race.
 
smartcooky said:
Yes indeed!!

(NOTE: Some of the posters in this thread are apparently unable to detect that these are all biological males).

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From your visit to the cherry grove.
 
smartcooky said:
The following is not personalization - you have asked me to clarify, so I owe it to you to do so.

"That distinction" is not what I was talking about.

I was talking about your emotional outburst over your seeming frustration that screaming things that others ( as well as repeating the same false narratives, deliberately misquoting other posters, calling them liars, and stupid, making up your own definitions, and making up childish, insulting names for them and their worldview) is not gaining any traction here. When you trivialize, belittle and mock the concerns of others in this thread, those others are going to either ignore you or treat your posts with contempt.

If you want to be taken seriously, you need to do, and be, better.
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You should read this slowly while looking in a mirror.
 
Mycroft said:
If a white person can darken their skin and have the same social experiences as a black person, what is the difference?
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Childhood, presumably.

No snark (at the moment) but some people think that formative experiences are more psychologically significant and that everything after that is more-or-less self-conscious experimentation by comparison.
 
Ziggurat said:
That's kinda the point: there's a whole grove out there, not just a single tree. And you have nothing to say about it.
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I just said something about it. I correctly called it cherry-picking.

There are 8 billion people on this planet. That makes for a grove of cherries for whatever you're looking for.

Want to prove Jews are bad people? There is a whole grove of cherries to pick from.

Want to prove black people are bad people? There is a whole grove of cherries to pick from.

Want to prove women are bad people? There is a whole grove of cherries to pick from.

Want to prove Asians are bad people? There is a whole grove of cherries to pick from.

Want to prove Muslims are bad people? There is a whole grove of cherries to pick from.

I could go on forever, but I think you get the point.

Or you should get the point. I won't be surprised when this is raised again, and you defend it again.
 
d4m10n said:
Childhood, presumably.

No snark (at the moment) but some people think that formative experiences are more psychologically significant and that everything after that is more-or-less self-conscious experimentation by comparison.
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Often snark is perceived where none is intended.

I've heard it argued Barack Obama is white because he was raised white. Same?
 
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