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Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

If we can't tell the difference between "true trans" and "imposter", then letting any of them in allows ALL OF THEM right of entry.

This is said over and over again, but there is nobody at the bathroom door checking, so there is no allowing or not allowing anything.
 
Why do you want to make it a right for males to override female boundaries, and be able to look at us naked or expose themselves to us without our consent?

How often do you see naked women in the woman's room? If a transwoman with a penis were to use the woman's room, why do you think you would see this penis?
 
Again? It's been explained over and over again why telepathy is required to distinguish transwomen there to pee from perverts there to expose themselves.

Were they showing off these erections to cis-women in the bathroom? Or were they taking selfies when they were the only person's there?

WTF difference does that make? The point is that if you open female spaces to any males then you open them to all males, regardless of their motivations, and there are then no such thing as female safe spaces.
 
Again? It's been explained over and over again why telepathy is required to distinguish transwomen there to pee from perverts there to expose themselves.

Any given cis-woman may be hanging out in the bathroom waiting to mug someone for crack money. All kinds of things are possible, but to attribute to all of transwomen the bad behavior of a small number of criminals is bigotry. You don't need telepathy.

WTF difference does that make? The point is that if you open female spaces to any males then you open them to all males, regardless of their motivations, and there are then no such thing as female safe spaces.

The difference is between sexual assault and people being gross. If they're doing that while alone in the bathroom, they are not threatening anyone's safety.
 
This is said over and over again, but there is nobody at the bathroom door checking, so there is no allowing or not allowing anything.

As long as no male has the right to violate female boundaries, all the women need to do is raise the alarm if a male enters and behaves inappropriately and the staff (and anyone else within earshot) will come to their aid.

Once any males have the right to violate female boundaries, all any male has to do is claim to be such a male and there will absolutely nothing women can do about it.

This has also been pointed out again and again.
 
There's no such thing as women's clothes. Anyone can wear whatever the they want. I never wear dresses, skirts or makeup. I'm still a woman.

Up-thread I was lectured about how women are shaped differently and one fellow told me he was uncomfortable for a day because he borrowed a woman's back-pack for a hike.

Of course there are men's and woman's clothing. There are entire industries dedicated to catering to the clothing needs of men and women. There is a store called "Men's Warehouse". Can you buy a dress there? No? It's an excellent place to buy a men's suit. There is a clothing store called "Lane Bryant" for larger women.

Even your own claim to never wear dresses, skirts or makeup while still being a woman affirms these are typical woman's clothing items.

Please don't feed me obvious bovine excrement.
 
As long as no male has the right to violate female boundaries, all the women need to do is raise the alarm if a male enters and behaves inappropriately and the staff (and anyone else within earshot) will come to their aid.

It has always been the case that if someone behaves inappropriately in the bathroom, men's or woman's, an alarm can be raised and the person can be dealt with.

Once any males have the right to violate female boundaries, all any male has to do is claim to be such a male and there will absolutely nothing women can do about it.

This has also been pointed out again and again.

Danny Trejo doesn't need your permission, and doesn't need lipstick.
 
How often do you see naked women in the woman's room? If a transwoman with a penis were to use the woman's room, why do you think you would see this penis?

If it were a transwoman, you almost certainly wouldn't. If it was a flasher, you almost certainly would.

Plus we're not just talking about toilets but all female only facilities, in some of which nakedness is far more likely.
 
It has always been the case that if someone behaves inappropriately in the bathroom, men's or woman's, an alarm can be raised and the person can be dealt with.

But if TRAs get their way, that will change. As long as the offending male is willing to utter some magic words, it's the women who might find themselves being "dealt with".
 
If it were a transwoman, you almost certainly wouldn't. If it was a flasher, you almost certainly would.

No telepathy required. The person who wants to use the bathroom won't bother you, and the other person can be dealt with the way any other sex-offender is.

Plus we're not just talking about toilets but all female only facilities, in some of which nakedness is far more likely.

The bathroom is the most common experience. The most recent time I was at a public changing space everyone had their own space to change in.
 
that we also need to have gender to describe a person's self-representation and their relationship to the world as a whole.
Why?

Why not non-binary/non-conforming man/ trans identified man; why does it have to be transwoman?
 
Please don't feed me obvious bovine excrement.

Irony overload.

Are you really suggesting that only transwomen who wear traditional women's clothes (cut for women, no matter how uncomfortable that would be on a male body) are ever going to demand entrance to female safe spaces?

I'm taking a break from this thread, because it's making me angry.
 
It seems to me the subject ought to centre around "exposing oneself". When I'm in the gent's room I am either inside a stall or standing at the urinal, separated on both the right and left side by a partician, so I'm not exposing myself, as they say. Someone who is moving about outside of those particians (with free-range genitals in view) are exposing themselves. I don't like seeing it any more than the average woman would. If my opinion is based upon social or religious morality then it is what it is.
Unlikely in toilets,
Normally, yes. There is the glory hole however. I heard a gruesome story once but I don't want to make anyone vomit so I won't say what it was.
but very likely in single sex changing rooms.
Indeed.
This is the sort of behaviour that UPenn swimmers had to put up with from Will "Lia" Thomas. He used to walk though the changing rooms waving his schlong around.
That's what they say.
IMO, he did this intentionally to upset the women in the room
I definitely do believe that. Both all women and all men generally wrap a towel around themselves unless they want to make an intentional statement.
 
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That a distinction is made between sex and gender at all is because sex alone doesn't describe the full human experience, that we also need to have gender to describe a person's self-representation and their relationship to the world as a whole.
What utter tripe.

Other members of the animal kingdom get along just fine with their "relationship to the world as a whole" without some made up, meaningless drivel like gender identity. Modern Humans have managed fine without it for all of the last 300,000 years barring the last 10-15.
 
Irony overload.

Are you really suggesting that only transwomen who wear traditional women's clothes (cut for women, no matter how uncomfortable that would be on a male body) are ever going to demand entrance to female safe spaces?

Is that what I said? No? Then I must not be saying that.

Are you telling me transwomen can't find women's clothes that fit? Because if you are, I suggest you spend some time with Google images.

I'm taking a break from this thread, because it's making me angry.

I bet it is.
 

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