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Trump's Second Term

plague311 said:
No, they shouldn't.
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Then they may LOSE all American support. That means ammo, weapons from the USA. Replacement vehicles, replacement parts. Good luck winning back any territory without US support.

Without USA support, we might as well just call the current battlefield lines the new borders of expanded Russia.
 
Russia can be beaten. Ukraine can beat Russia, push them out fully, even take bits (assuming they'd care to), if they are supported.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
You would think someone would find a way to get between him and his phone and tweet something, if not statesmanlike, at least less crass.
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Given the derivation of the word, and indirect associations with Crassus, he'd probably (if he had the slightest education) take it as a compliment to be thought crass.
 
Resume said:
Yeah, Obama went on a rant last week about what would ve hahappened if he did any of those things, but the reallity is that anyone would get roasted for this ◊◊◊◊, but somehow Trump gets a break because . . . well, I dunno.
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Because him and his media and his early fans managed to lower the standard, but just for him. He is playing in a different league in this regard.
It's the same with holding a 4-year old to different standards compared to a 40-year old.
The turning point was when he got away with the locker room tape. Anything after that would'nt matter anymore.
 
Hercules56 said:
Then they may LOSE all American support. That means ammo, weapons from the USA. Replacement vehicles, replacement parts. Good luck winning back any territory without US support.

Without USA support, we might as well just call the current battlefield lines the new borders of expanded Russia.
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You mean like we already ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ did? You're describing this as if it's some far in the future plausibility. We already pulled all of that. Hence why Europe is stepping up to fill in the void.

Again, this is the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ problem with Americans. Constantly thinking that nothing is doable without us, that we're the only ones in the world that can provide support, or push Ukraine to victory. Spoiler alert, we're not. We're not at all.
 
Hercules56 said:
They should be willing to give up land that they will NOT be able to win back, in exchange for military defense treaties with the EU and USA.
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Oh man! One minute you should say they should give up Crimea to make the Russians looks bad for not doing a ceasefire, now you say they should give it up for defence treaties. Basically you are just saying Ukraine should give up Crimea.

Now, it may come down to that eventually anyway, but you don’t give concessions without something in return. The US is NOT going to be doing any treaties with Ukraine any time soon. Not while that orange sack of ◊◊◊◊ is president.
 
Hercules56 said:
Then they may LOSE all American support. That means ammo, weapons from the USA. Replacement vehicles, replacement parts. Good luck winning back any territory without US support.

Without USA support, we might as well just call the current battlefield lines the new borders of expanded Russia.
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Stop making up fantasy scenarios. They must give up Crimea now or lose all American support!?

Jesus freaking Christ!
 
dudalb said:
If he makes Trump look stupid, I guess.
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Dudalb, you keep saying this. Remember when you said this about RFK being kicked out if he makes Trump look stupid. Yet here we are… a raging measles epidemic, RFK making stupid claims about vaccines and autism, Trump going along with it.

We had Waltz putting an Atlantic editor into the Signal group chat and being splashed across the media for a few days before he managed to distract us by tanking the stock market and sending innocent people to El Salvador.

What do you people think “looking stupid” looks like?

They do not care what people think. This is part of the flex. Do the outrageous thing then smirk and say what are you going to do about it?
 
angrysoba said:
Oh man! One minute you should say they should give up Crimea to make the Russians looks bad for not doing a ceasefire, now you say they should give it up for defence treaties. Basically you are just saying Ukraine should give up Crimea.

Now, it may come down to that eventually anyway, but you don’t give concessions without something in return. The US is NOT going to be doing any treaties with Ukraine any time soon. Not while that orange sack of ◊◊◊◊ is president.
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No, I said they should "say" they will give up Crimea cuz we know Russia will not agree to a cease fire.
 
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That's all I could access. It's enough to know that this, Trump 2.0, is a watershed moment in history. Everyone is scared of even traveling to the US, including returning citizens. Never know when some hillbilly isn't too busy belching and picking his teeth and might take notice, all king-of-the-hill like.

Trump 1.0 could be forgiven, provided justice were done for his insurrection, as has been done in Brazil and SK. But Trump 2.0, in full cognizance, zero justice and no excuses? That's a mortal sin. No one will forgive Americans for the coming crisis. WWII medal holders can toss them in the garbage.
 
Hmmm.

Just think of the idiot they're replace him with.
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Mojo said:
No, he wants Trump as the next Pontiff.
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Hercules56 said:
No, I said they should "say" they will give up Crimea cuz we know Russia will not agree to a cease fire.
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Brilliant idea! “Say” they will give up Crimea. Brilliant, Hercules!! Brilliant strategy. Publicly renounce their ownership of the land. That makes so much sense doesn’t it!

Then the entire world, starting with Russia and Trump’s America can redraw the maps to show Russia now owns Crimea.

What happens next Einstein?
 
Hercules56 said:
No we would simply go tactical nuclear.
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Ukraine would go tac nukes, too, except that in a previous negotiation they gave up their nukes in exchange for security guarantees.

But definitely they should count on any security guarantees they would get for giving up land. That's totally different.
 
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As a US Army veteran I would love to see Hegseth removed as Sec Def as I consider him completely unqualified for the job. His appointment struck me as actually insulting to the military, pure insanity. But one thing to consider is, as a lot of these horrible picks get the boot, some may turn on trump and start trashing him in public.

I'd like to write, "Get the popcorn," but it's all just too depressing to me.
 
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