Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

I was told on another forum that transwoman is transphobic. It's trans woman. It's a type of woman, like old woman or funny woman. If you write it as one word that isn't clear.
 
Rolfe said:
No, It's "I'm fed up providing the statistics for trans-identifying male sexual offending, the thousand or so examples of these cases, and the psychology/psychiatry references that explain autogynaephilia," only to have everything dismissed as "you can't keep trans-identifying men from having everything they want just because of a few bad apples." As I remarked before, no matter how high the proportion of bad apples in the barrel, you'll insist that all of them must be treated with deference and grovelling, all of them must have free right of access to women's spaces, just because there might be one in a small village in Wales somewhere who isn't a pervert who gets off on listening to women pee.
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Lies. Not sure what you are trying to say, unless you are arguing against an imaginary poster coincidentally also named Thermal, who has radically different postings.
Rolfe said:
You have no idea what these men are really like.
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You know literally nothing about me or my experiences.
Rolfe said:
You have completely swallowed the propaganda about the poor harmless troubled soul who only wants to have everything women have and not be bothered by anyone about it.
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I have not. Had you been paying the slightest bit of attention, which you seem to indicate you have not, we have the same stance on intimate space access and participation in competitive athletics. From my personal experience, I do know that you are globally and factually wrong, and trans people do exist who are not 'tranny freaks'.
Rolfe said:
The most oppressed and marginalised group on the planet, that has governments and organisations and corporations dancing attendance on it by draping everything in the Progress Pride flag (forced teaming is working well there), abolishing all female single-sex spaces and getting women who speak out of line cancelled and sacked. You have no interest in looking any deeper into this issue in case it shakes your male-centred prejudice, and you'll dismiss any evidence handed to you as flawed in some way or another. Sick of this.
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So sick of it that here you are, and still not providing substantial evidence of your assertions, yet expecting everyone to defer to your bald claims. Oh, but wait! is this the long awaited evidence coming up? Let's see...
Rolfe said:
ETA: Here's an article, though I don't imagine you'll read it.

www.spiked-online.com

The White Lotus exposes a dark truth about trans

Some men have a sexual fetish for pretending to be women.
www.spiked-online.com www.spiked-online.com
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A ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ fictional TV show? That's what you come up with? All right.

First off: saying I wouldn't read it indicates you are not an observant person. I have read, explored, and critiqued everything presented during my involvement ITT. Remember when you recently posted a tweet featuring the nitwit trying to interpret an unnamed study? Remember how I not only identified the study, but linked it and posted a factual critique? Remember how you showed all the acumen of a rock while this was being discussed?

But back to the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ TV show. It is a fictional account of a seriously sexually deviant guy. Not exactly a typical trans gender cat. It throws an interesting spotlight on how weird peoples' fetishes can be, sure. But that's irrelevant to the discussion here, because you present ZERO evidence that this is representative.

Hey, you know what else is on TV? A series called Dexter. Realistic in it's way, because real serial killers are most often white males. How much more do you think we can extrapolate from the TV show's writers that we should treat as representative and factual?

This is what I have seen of your argumentation. Unsupported claims with a demand they be accepted, random tweets from painfully stupid people, and now fictional TV show reviews, which I guess are supposed to be the end-all of discussion, when all I asked of you is if you had any evidence to support your zany claims that dem trannys is all pervs.
 
Hercules56 said:
He does have a point. If transwomen were in fact women, 100% women, they'd just be called "women". There'd be no reason to make them a hyphenated women.
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No one anywhere in this discussion is talking about trans women being "100% women". That's a 'you' thing.
 
Still nothing of substance to say? Ok.

Btw, trans men are fine with me too. And as I've said more than a few times, intimate spaces need to be sex segregated. But please, keep arguing with the imaginary postings. Looks all kinds of sane and rational.
 
Oh, I have plenty of substance to say. But I said it (several times) already, and I'm not wasting any more time saying it again.
 
I'm sure. When you have posted your stellar links here, they've been *checks notes* fictional TV commentary and some of the twittersphere's lower watt bulbs.

Rolfe, you may have posted incredibly persuasive evidence over the years on this voluminous thread. However, our owner has decided to shut down search, so I can't find your pearls of wisdom.

But what you have posted during my participation is vacuous crap. And that is your choice. Don't blame me or anyone else. You wanted to give off that impression.
 
Pixel42 said:
I was told on another forum that transwoman is transphobic. It's trans woman. It's a type of woman, like old woman or funny woman. If you write it as one word that isn't clear.
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I've seen it brought up on this forum as well. I'm hoping this convention will help people understand where I'm coming from, when I use "transwoman" anyway.
 
Rolfe said:
No, It's "I'm fed up providing the statistics for trans-identifying male sexual offending, the thousand or so examples of these cases...
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Just realized you have actually claimed a statistic here. Good job!

A thousand or so examples, you say? Was that a typo or did you mean what you posted?

Cuz there are millions of transpeople. That means you are dicking around in the small fraction of a percent range, claiming these behaviors as representative of the whole.. Skeptics might narrow their eyes at this.
 
Pixel42 said:
I was told on another forum that transwoman is transphobic. It's trans woman. It's a type of woman, like old woman or funny woman. If you write it as one word that isn't clear.
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My spellchecker puts a red squiggly line under 'transwoman' on my laptop, and my phone's autocorrect adds the space no matter how I type it. Didn't realize it had meaning beyond that.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Not quite.

I would, however, say that people with a psychological predisposition toward criminal activity - especially sexual offending - are more likely to identify as trans. Which is the cart and which the horse is up to you, I don't particularly care.

Cross dressing has been a known correlate with serial killers and serial rapists for a long time. It's not predictive, but it's a frequent indicator of likelihood to escalate. Similarly, sexual offenders are well known for finding and exploiting loopholes in safeguarding in order to access their targets.
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I'm sure this is true, but wouldn't it be easily explainable by serial killers and rapists to be less constrained by societal convention? They are 'coloring outside the lines' kind of people by definition. I don't think we should assume that noting that serial killers prefer Nike shoes means that people who wear Nike shoes are generally serial killers.
 
Thermal said:
Just realized you have actually claimed a statistic here. Good job!

A thousand or so examples, you say? Was that a typo or did you mean what you posted?

Cuz there are millions of transpeople. That means you are dicking around in the small fraction of a percent range, claiming these behaviors as representative of the whole.. Skeptics might narrow their eyes at this.
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Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent official count of transgender prisoners):
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%
125 sex offenders out of 3812 women= 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 16.8% men = 16.8%

 
Manger Douse said:
Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent official count of transgender prisoners):
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%
125 sex offenders out of 3812 women= 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 16.8% men = 16.8%

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That's great! You've demonstrated what mankind has known for millenia, that males are more violent than females, and social deviants exhibit socially deviant behaviors.

Now, would you like me to take those same figures and plug them.in against the total trans population to demonstrate what a vanishing small percentage of trans people you are trying to demonize them all with? It's fun, cuz the skeptics in the room already see it.
 
Thermal said:
That's great! You've demonstrated what mankind has known for millenia, that males are more violent than females, and social deviants exhibit socially deviant behaviors.

Now, would you like me to take those same figures and plug them.in against the total trans population to demonstrate what a vanishing small percentage of trans people you are trying to demonize them all with? It's fun, cuz the skeptics in the room already see it.
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Please do, and compare that percentage with men and women
 
Hercules56 said:
Hmm, why are trans women more likely to be sex offenders than men in general?
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Socially deviant criminals are not restrained by convention as much as us boring people are. They do a whole lot of stuff that you personally would consider "out there". No brakes on. No reason to act and dress like all the "normal" people do.
 
Thermal said:
That's great! You've demonstrated what mankind has known for millenia, that males are more violent than females, and social deviants exhibit socially deviant behaviors.

Now, would you like me to take those same figures and plug them.in against the total trans population to demonstrate what a vanishing small percentage of
trans people you are trying to demonize them all with? It's fun, cuz the skeptics in the room already see it.
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TransWOMEN. There are no transmen in UK prisons as of that report. I'll leave it up to the readers to guess why
 
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