The Truth about RFK Jr

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NPR reported, "Frieden, the former CDC director, agrees that conflicts of interest are cause for concern. "It is important to avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety. It is important that any potential conflict of interest that may unduly influence a recommendation be investigated," he says. But, Frieden says Kennedy's misleading statements "can undermine confidence in what is a very transparent, fact-based process," in which the committee debates and makes vaccine policies in public live streamed meetings...Sowing doubts on the integrity of vaccine policymaking could lead to fewer people getting routine vaccines, says Orenstein at Emory. "It really scares me. I've seen measles, I've seen polio cases," he says. "I am very, very concerned that what is happening now will lead to more decreases in vaccine uptake and the return of these diseases.""

Everything that I have read so far about RFK Jr is that he will blame conflicts of interest or profiteering for the results of any study, the results of which are not to his liking. This is not skepticism; it is its exact opposite. I am probably repeating myself.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
NPR reported, "Frieden, the former CDC director, agrees that conflicts of interest are cause for concern. "It is important to avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety. It is important that any potential conflict of interest that may unduly influence a recommendation be investigated," he says. But, Frieden says Kennedy's misleading statements "can undermine confidence in what is a very transparent, fact-based process," in which the committee debates and makes vaccine policies in public live streamed meetings...Sowing doubts on the integrity of vaccine policymaking could lead to fewer people getting routine vaccines, says Orenstein at Emory. "It really scares me. I've seen measles, I've seen polio cases," he says. "I am very, very concerned that what is happening now will lead to more decreases in vaccine uptake and the return of these diseases.""

Everything that I have read so far about RFK Jr is that he will blame conflicts of interest or profiteering for the results of any study, the results of which are not to his liking. This is not skepticism; it is its exact opposite. I am probably repeating myself.
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You are probably repeating yourself, but it's an important enough point that you need to constantly hammer it in.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
NPR reported, "Frieden, the former CDC director, agrees that conflicts of interest are cause for concern. "It is important to avoid impropriety and the appearance of impropriety. It is important that any potential conflict of interest that may unduly influence a recommendation be investigated," he says. But, Frieden says Kennedy's misleading statements "can undermine confidence in what is a very transparent, fact-based process," in which the committee debates and makes vaccine policies in public live streamed meetings...Sowing doubts on the integrity of vaccine policymaking could lead to fewer people getting routine vaccines, says Orenstein at Emory. "It really scares me. I've seen measles, I've seen polio cases," he says. "I am very, very concerned that what is happening now will lead to more decreases in vaccine uptake and the return of these diseases.""

Everything that I have read so far about RFK Jr is that he will blame conflicts of interest or profiteering for the results of any study, the results of which are not to his liking. This is not skepticism; it is its exact opposite. I am probably repeating myself.
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Don't worry about repeating yourself.

I keep asking Mike Griffith to answer my questions, but he doesn't and he won't because he can't. I will keep asking anyway because I think it is important to expose lying anti-vaxxers and to hold them accountable. Easily preventable deaths of children are on their hands, and they should be reminded of it as often as possible.
 
angrysoba said:
Yes, they can. Imagine how stupid RFK would be if he was intelligent, because he’s pretty ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ insanely dumb when it comes to healthcare.
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Perhaps Trump's most puzzling appointment. COUld
nt he have fobbed RKF off with heading a comission of some trpe...a classic way or paying a political debt when you don't want the guy to get a resposinble position.
angrysoba said:
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The two sides are NOT talking past each other. One side is LYING about vaccines causing people to be fearful about them.

The other side is TRUTHFULLY pointing out that vaccines do NOT cause autism and, furthermore, that they have made many childhood diseases and others a thing of the past and massively reduced death and illness from other diseases.

We know they are lying because they use a barrage of contradictory arguments that they refuse to defend.

Mike Griffith, in this very thread, proves he doesn’t believe the lies he peddles because he repeatedly refuses to answer my direct questions of his BS.

RFK Jr and his enablers are pure scum.
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So Mike has not change since the days he was pushing Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Crap under a different name?
 
Vitamin A, Infections and Measles (Science-Based Medicine, Mar 18, 2025)

Lazarus Long on X, Mar 18, 2025
This is INSANE!!
H/T @HNimanFC.
Early interventions in fighting a viral infection like measles are one of the biggest predictors of survival.
But - @RobertKennedyJr recommended cod liver oil and Vitamin A.
And at the center of the outbreak, that's what they did.
And this week, doctors at Seminole Memorial Hospital, which sits at the center of Gaines County, noticed that the number of patients coming in for measles symptoms suddenly dropped. Those who did show up were sicker than patients seen in previous weeks.
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To get enough supplements for the clinic, Dr. Edwards had enlisted one of his patients, a pilot, to fly to Scottsdale, Ariz., and pick up nearly a thousand bottles of vitamin C supplements and cod liver oil, both as a lemon-flavored drink and unflavored soft gels, said an owner of the supplement company, Patrick Sullivan.
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Stopped going to the hospital and went to go get the whack-a-doodle Kennedy stuff.
https://nytimes.com/2025/03/15/health/measles-texas-kennedy.html
And it gets better.
Kennedy also said we should let chickens survive to see if any can fight off the virus.
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The problem is that for each chicken, that's another chance for the virus to get worse.
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Research continues to surface that supports RFK Jr.'s concerns about the COVID vaccine. From an article on Just the News website--and notice we're talking about research done by Yale and Harvard scientists:

Yale research validates spike protein persistence from COVID vaccines as injury visibility rises​

EXCERPT:
Snopes tried to discredit research as a "rumor" when journalist received early results from conference call between researchers and study participants. Spike still detectable in some participants 600-700 days later. . . .

Yale University immunobiologists concluded that COVID-19 vaccination is responsible for some cases of so-called long COVID purportedly caused by infection, adding a pharmacological wrinkle to earlier international research that attributed wearing higher-quality masks, loneliness and physical inactivity to symptoms mistaken for post-infection conditions.

But their Feb. 18 preprint research, not yet peer-reviewed, also found alarming levels of spike protein – the primary mechanism for mRNA COVID vaccines – in the blood of never-infected participants as long as nearly two years after inoculation, far longer than the eight weeks found in a 2022 peer-reviewed study.

Federal public health authorities long denied the vaccine-specific spike protein "lingers" in the body or is toxic, as a Food and Drug Administration spokesperson told the self-proclaimed fact-checker PolitiFact in summer 2023.

Months earlier, peer-reviewed research by Harvard Medical School identified spike proteins as responsible for post-vaccination myocarditis in young people.

"Labs have shown I continue to have high levels of spike protein in my blood, yet a negative nucleocapsid [antibody from the virus itself], which is a hallmark signature of this vaccine mRNA gene therapy," vaccine-injury victim Robert Fusaro told The New American in 2022.
 
mikegriffith1 said:
Research continues to surface that supports RFK Jr.'s concerns about the COVID vaccine. From an article on Just the News website--and notice we're talking about research done by Yale and Harvard scientists:

Yale research validates spike protein persistence from COVID vaccines as injury visibility rises​

EXCERPT:
Snopes tried to discredit research as a "rumor" when journalist received early results from conference call between researchers and study participants. Spike still detectable in some participants 600-700 days later. . . .

Yale University immunobiologists concluded that COVID-19 vaccination is responsible for some cases of so-called long COVID purportedly caused by infection, adding a pharmacological wrinkle to earlier international research that attributed wearing higher-quality masks, loneliness and physical inactivity to symptoms mistaken for post-infection conditions.

But their Feb. 18 preprint research, not yet peer-reviewed, also found alarming levels of spike protein – the primary mechanism for mRNA COVID vaccines – in the blood of never-infected participants as long as nearly two years after inoculation, far longer than the eight weeks found in a 2022 peer-reviewed study.

Federal public health authorities long denied the vaccine-specific spike protein "lingers" in the body or is toxic, as a Food and Drug Administration spokesperson told the self-proclaimed fact-checker PolitiFact in summer 2023.

Months earlier, peer-reviewed research by Harvard Medical School identified spike proteins as responsible for post-vaccination myocarditis in young people.

"Labs have shown I continue to have high levels of spike protein in my blood, yet a negative nucleocapsid [antibody from the virus itself], which is a hallmark signature of this vaccine mRNA gene therapy," vaccine-injury victim Robert Fusaro told The New American in 2022.
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Which vaccines are safe?

Do you agree with RFK that people should get vaccinated for measles?

How do you square that with your claim that the MMR vaccine is bad?
 
mikegriffith1 said:
Research continues to surface that supports RFK Jr.'s concerns about the COVID vaccine. From an article on Just the News website--and notice we're talking about research done by Yale and Harvard scientists:

Yale research validates spike protein persistence from COVID vaccines as injury visibility rises​

EXCERPT:
Snopes tried to discredit research as a "rumor" when journalist received early results from conference call between researchers and study participants. Spike still detectable in some participants 600-700 days later. . . .

Yale University immunobiologists concluded that COVID-19 vaccination is responsible for some cases of so-called long COVID purportedly caused by infection, adding a pharmacological wrinkle to earlier international research that attributed wearing higher-quality masks, loneliness and physical inactivity to symptoms mistaken for post-infection conditions.

But their Feb. 18 preprint research, not yet peer-reviewed, also found alarming levels of spike protein – the primary mechanism for mRNA COVID vaccines – in the blood of never-infected participants as long as nearly two years after inoculation, far longer than the eight weeks found in a 2022 peer-reviewed study.

Federal public health authorities long denied the vaccine-specific spike protein "lingers" in the body or is toxic, as a Food and Drug Administration spokesperson told the self-proclaimed fact-checker PolitiFact in summer 2023.

Months earlier, peer-reviewed research by Harvard Medical School identified spike proteins as responsible for post-vaccination myocarditis in young people.

"Labs have shown I continue to have high levels of spike protein in my blood, yet a negative nucleocapsid [antibody from the virus itself], which is a hallmark signature of this vaccine mRNA gene therapy," vaccine-injury victim Robert Fusaro told The New American in 2022.
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Advocating for anti-vaxxersim is advocating for (more) dead children.
 
angrysoba said:
Which vaccines are safe?

Do you agree with RFK that people should get vaccinated for measles?

How do you square that with your claim that the MMR vaccine is bad?
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Well Wakefield advocated for the use of separate vaccines over a period of time rather than the combined vaccine - whilst conveniently shilling for a company which provided said separate vaccines.
 
The Don said:
Well Wakefield advocated for the use of separate vaccines over a period of time rather than the combined vaccine - whilst conveniently shilling for a company which provided said separate vaccines.
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I want Mike Griffiths to answer. He doesn’t get to even make such an argument as he himself was posting scare stories about the MMR from RFK’s website and yet also claiming victory because RFK had written a Fox News editorial in which the effectiveness of the MMR was praised. I want Mike Griffiths to stop talking out of both sides of his mouth for once and to clarify his stance.
 
mikegriffith1 said:
Research continues to surface that supports RFK Jr.'s concerns about the COVID vaccine. From an article on Just the News website--and notice we're talking about research done by Yale and Harvard scientists:

Yale research validates spike protein persistence from COVID vaccines as injury visibility rises​

EXCERPT:
Snopes tried to discredit research as a "rumor" when journalist received early results from conference call between researchers and study participants. Spike still detectable in some participants 600-700 days later. . . .

Yale University immunobiologists concluded that COVID-19 vaccination is responsible for some cases of so-called long COVID purportedly caused by infection, adding a pharmacological wrinkle to earlier international research that attributed wearing higher-quality masks, loneliness and physical inactivity to symptoms mistaken for post-infection conditions.

But their Feb. 18 preprint research, not yet peer-reviewed, also found alarming levels of spike protein – the primary mechanism for mRNA COVID vaccines – in the blood of never-infected participants as long as nearly two years after inoculation, far longer than the eight weeks found in a 2022 peer-reviewed study.

Federal public health authorities long denied the vaccine-specific spike protein "lingers" in the body or is toxic, as a Food and Drug Administration spokesperson told the self-proclaimed fact-checker PolitiFact in summer 2023.

Months earlier, peer-reviewed research by Harvard Medical School identified spike proteins as responsible for post-vaccination myocarditis in young people.

"Labs have shown I continue to have high levels of spike protein in my blood, yet a negative nucleocapsid [antibody from the virus itself], which is a hallmark signature of this vaccine mRNA gene therapy," vaccine-injury victim Robert Fusaro told The New American in 2022.
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What is the problem with the 'spike protein'?

In your own words please.
 
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