Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

[Hercules56]

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Mar 15, 2025

A recent US study using a retrospective matched cohort design that analyzed over 107k medical records from patients with a diagnoses of gender dysphoria found that "those undergoing surgery were at significantly higher risk for depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and substance use disorders than those without surgery".

Of course this is not an RCT (but nor are any studies cited in support of the efficacy of gender-affirming treatment). The conclusions correctly use the term 'associated with' rather than 'causing' poorer mental health. However, when designs that cannot establish...

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"From 107 583 patients, matched cohorts demonstrated that those undergoing surgery were at significantly higher risk for depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and substance use disorders than those without surgery. Males with surgery showed a higher prevalence of depression (25.4% vs. 11.5%, RR 2.203, P < 0.0001) and anxiety (12.8% vs. 2.6%, RR 4.882, P < 0.0001). Females exhibited similar trends, with elevated depression (22.9% vs. 14.6%, RR 1.563, P < 0.0001) and anxiety (10.5% vs. 7.1%, RR 1.478, P < 0.0001). Feminizing individuals demonstrated particularly high risk for depression (RR 1.783, P = 0.0298) and substance use disorders (RR 1.284, P < 0.0001)."



Interesting.

 

[Rolfe]

That could have been it. If I see anything else I'll post it. No, transition is not the answer. The number of people now expressing serious regret at the changes they've caused to their bodies, including in some cases permanent sterility, is getting downright embarrassing.

 

[Thermal]

Naked, she most definitely does not look like a normal woman.

Ya well maybe a person amounts to more than what you think they look like naked. That's kind of between her and her partner.

 

[Rolfe]

I'm very skeptical of the "force-teaming" narrative here, not least because the trans insurgents were once a rather small fraction of the activist whole. The explanation which seems much more plausible to me is that LGB advocacy groups essentially ran out of issues once they were given formal equality regarding marriage and related legal rights granted to romantic partners and then needed to choose between folding up shop and finding a new drum to bang on.

Is this actually a thing that happens IRL? Last I checked Tanner stage II is usually years prior to that age.

I think we need to examine what sort of inferences we can reasonably make here.

Do James Rennie's awful crimes tell us anything about LGBT activism more generally?


Glad to see this clarified.

You can be as sceptical as you please, but the sheer number of prominent trans-activists, trans or not, who have been convicted of child sex offences is absolutely ridiculous. ChatGPT has been programmed not to search for these cases, but someone asked Grok. Initially three or four cases were reported but the questioner kept saying, search for more. Last I heard it was up to 67.

 

[Hercules56]

Ya well maybe a person amounts to more than what you think they look like naked. That's kind of between her and her partner.

Ok well just pointing out they most likely do NOT look like a woman, when naked.

 

[Thermal]

Ok well just pointing out they most likely do NOT look like a woman, when naked.

And just pointing out that's got nothing to do with anything at all. If a woman gets a masectomy, is she no longer a woman to you because you dont think she looks like one naked?

 

[Hercules56]

And just pointing out that's got nothing to do with anything at all. If a woman gets a mastectomy, is she no longer a woman to you because you dont think she looks like one naked?

No, she looks like a woman who had a masectomy.

 

[Thermal]

No, she looks like a woman who had a masectomy.

And a transitioned woman looks like a woman who has undergone transition surgery.

Ya think we could move away from this intensely sick way of evaluating women you are latched onto?

 

[Rolfe]

That would be what is usually termed a transman.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901617154417434888

 

[Hercules56]

And a transitioned woman looks like a woman who has undergone transition surgery.

Ya think we could move away from this intensely sick way of evaluating women you are latched onto?

You mean a man who has undergone surgery to look like a woman?

No, they dont look like a woman. They look like a man who has chopped up his bits and pieces to sorta look like a lady. But they really don't.

 

[smartcooky]

You can be as sceptical as you please, but the sheer number of prominent trans-activists, trans or not, who have been convicted of child sex offences is absolutely ridiculous. ChatGPT has been programmed not to search for these cases, but someone asked Grok. Initially three or four cases were reported but the questioner kept saying, search for more. Last I heard it was up to 67.

100% agree. Reposting this because I think some people need reminding...

Trans Crime UK – Documenting crimes committed by transgender individuals in the UK

And here a list. just of TIMs convicted of violence against women & children..

List of male trans individuals convicted of violence against women & children – Trans Crime UK

Over 320 names on that list (which is NOT exhaustive). But you know... its not happening, right? There's nothing to see here .

 

[Thermal]

You mean a man who has undergone surgery to look like a woman?

No, they dont look like a woman. They look like a man who has chopped up his bits and pieces to sorta look like a lady. But they really don't.

I guess we aren't going to move away from this intensely sicko discussion. Well, you're not. I'm out this bitch.

 

[Emily's Cat]

From Newman vs Metropolitan Police employment tribunal

Minutes from LGTB+ community engagement group - SO15 (counter-terrorism) are keeping an eye on TERFs but haven't found any evidence of wrong-doing.
View attachment 59492

GenderGP *should* be targeted by the media constantly. IIRC, they were disallowed from practicing medicine in the UK, then moved elsewhere and continued to market hormones and blockers to children via mail anyway.

Also... I'm laughing at "their charities get more donations than us, you should stop them!"

 

[Emily's Cat]

I'd like to know the names of these "anti-trans" organisations that are getting all that money. Because as far as I can see the entire feminist gender critical movement is surviving on selling badges and crowdfunders, with Jo Rowling occasionally chipping in.

Yes... but we buy a lot of badges and ribbons and suffragist-themed soaps and rolls of stickers etc.

 

[Emily's Cat]

A bit off topic... but...

Pacifists are objectively pro-fascism.

...sorry, what was that?

George Orwell, talking about the pacifist movement in the context of World War 2. The truth of his aphorism should be self-evident.

In his context, it may have been applicable (IIRC, he was saying that during actual, open World War against fascists, you didn't have the luxury of pacifism).

{Eta: you were for or against, no middle ground. I think you can be pacifist without being pro-fascist, not fighting but resisting the fascists in your own way}

In any event, I'd argue that in non-WW2 today, the reasonable spectrum of pacifism is broader.

Pacifists are entirely dependent on other people being willing to fight and die on their behalf. While simultaneously viewing non-pacifists as somehow lesser than them, less evolved, less reasoned, less compassionate, etc. But without the compassion, reason, and care of non-pacifists, pacifists are nothing by defenseless prey, and the preferred food of fascists. And there's nothing a fascists likes so much as a populace that has convinced itself that fighting back is immoral.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Some...faction or something of it might be... 'pro-pedophile', but I really don't get that message across the board.

So... it's not like they're walking around with it plastered to their foreheads. But there are a few things that bear some consideration. The forerunners of the entire ideology just happened to be males who abused children. John Money kicked it off - and you should look into them, it's appalling. A significant portion of the talking points for transgender ideology, and the materials and concepts that have wormed their way into schools came from WPATH, which also has argued against having any legal age of consent. There have repeatedly been high-profile activists and spokespeople for transgender organizations and activism groups who also argue for either removal of or lowering of the age of consent, insist that children are "kinky" and "not innocent", and advocate for pedophilia to be viewed as a sexual orientation and thus a protected characteristic. And while it's not guaranteed, the sheer number of people who loudly advocate for puberty blockers and medical transition for minors who keep ending up possessing child porn is a bit shocking.

At the end of the day, even if it's not 100%... there's a high enough number of people in the intersection of "gender affirming medical care for minors", "protection and tolerance of minor-attracted people", and "Oh no, how did those extreme child sex abuse photos end up on my hard drive" that it raises several red flags. Especially when you take half a step back and realize that "gender affirming medical care for minors" locks those children into child-like bodies...

Seriously, it's not like this perspective is cooked up out of thin air. Over and over again, we end up finding that the most vocal trans activists are actual pedophiles.

 

[Rolfe]

Unfortunately there is a paywall on this, but the first few paragraphs which are visible look like it's a fully worked out and referenced presentation of the position I was advancing earlier. (And what Emily was saying in that last post of hers.)

The LGBTQ+ Global Grooming Gang.

Stephen Ireland's conviction for child rape confirms what I've been saying for years. The LGBTQ+ lobby is riddled with predators and their depraved sexual fantasies drive its agenda.

malcolmrichardclark.substack.com

And this is why I say, burn the lot.

ETA: There's a Twitter thread that seems to summarise the article.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901751083464282583

 

[Emily's Cat]

Unlike, say, PTSD.

The difference here being that military service is the cause of PTSD.

If you have pre-existing PTSD, you won't be allowed to join. Just as the military doesn't allow people with bipolar disorder or clinical depression or schizophrenia to join. And, by the way, if you develop one of those non-PTSD conditions while active duty, you'll generally be medically separated from the force. And if PTSD is severe enough, you'll be medically discharged for that too.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Three despicable people who should get serious time in prison.

I don’t understand the connection with transgender though as none of the paedophiles are trans.

So who is to be burned?

From the first article:

Sexual predators don’t come with a flashing neon sign, but there are often clues. Adults who seek to blur boundaries around children’s safety – particularly those who are quick to dismiss concerns over safeguarding as ‘transphobia’ – deserve to be heavily scrutinised. The conviction of Stephen Ireland, co-founder of Pride in Surrey, is a stark reminder of why such vigilance is necessary.

This week, proud trans activist Ireland was convicted of raping a 12-year-old boy he met on Grindr, a gay dating app. He was also found guilty of three counts of causing a child under 13 to engage in sexual activity, one count of sexual assault of a child under 13, and six counts of making indecent images of children.

From the second:

Both Ireland and Sutton described themselves as 'pedos' with fantasies to "pump children full of oestrogenand get their vocal cords snipped"

The last one, Janes Rennie, was a strong activist for trans issues, and helped found a T-focused LGBT organization.

There are quite a few more out there - we keep finding that the people advocating for "trans youth" and developing the teaching materials that highlight transgender ideology end up being child abusing pedophiles.

Not every trans-associated person is a pedo... but there are an awful lot of pedos among them, and they're involved in shaping the narratives and policy pushes for how children are treated. They keep being invested in "gender affirming care" for minors, by which they mean puberty blockers, chemical castration, and surgeries that lock them into child-like undeveloped bodies.

 

[d4m10n]

You can be as sceptical as you please, but the sheer number of prominent trans-activists, trans or not, who have been convicted of child sex offences is absolutely ridiculous.

Why didn't you share some of those instead of the three non-trans criminals doing general LGBT activism?

ChatGPT has been programmed not to search for these cases, but someone asked Grok.

Again, I think we need to be careful drawing conclusions about a subset of the general public from the subset of that subset which has been convicted of crimes (e.g. clerics who abuse children). Far better to use the tools of statistical inference instead of cherry picking using AI.