The Truth about RFK Jr

"Despite assertions that he is not taking sides, Kennedy spends much of the chapter [of his book on Dr. Anthony Fauci] on HIV presenting arguments made by Peter Duesberg, a molecular biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, and perhaps the most influential HIV "denier." Duesberg has argued that HIV does not cause AIDS but is a "free rider" common to high-risk populations who suffer immune suppression due to environmental exposures." link
 
"Despite assertions that he is not taking sides, Kennedy spends much of the chapter [of his book on Dr. Anthony Fauci] on HIV presenting arguments made by Peter Duesberg, a molecular biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, and perhaps the most influential HIV "denier." Duesberg has argued that HIV does not cause AIDS but is a "free rider" common to high-risk populations who suffer immune suppression due to environmental exposures." link
As I've often said, even 'intelligent' people can be ******* stupid.
 
I read this when it was first reported in the Atlantic and still can’t wrap my head around this guy’s continued issue with vaccines. His child is dead. What is the worst-case scenario of vaccination that is worse than death?
It's like the "trolley problem". If a child is damaged by a vaccine, that's the result of something the parent has done. If their child dies of measles then that can be rationalised as just something that happened and therefore not their fault, even if it's far more likely in an unvaccinated child than negative consequences of the vaccine are in a vaccinated child.

In reality, of course, a decision not to vaccinate is as much a course of action as a decision to vaccinate.
 
I read this when it was first reported in the Atlantic and still can’t wrap my head around this guy’s continued issue with vaccines. His child is dead. What is the worst-case scenario of vaccination that is worse than death?
At least she died a Pure Blood!
 
"Parsing every claim about the measles vaccine that Kennedy has made would take a long time, so let’s focus on one: that the vaccine causes deaths every year. Researchers say that simply isn’t true, except potentially in a small number of people who are not supposed to receive it — those with compromised immune systems.

“There are adverse events from the vaccine,” Kennedy said in a March 11 interview with Fox’s Sean Hannity. “It does cause deaths every year. It causes — it causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes, encephalitis and blindness, et cetera. And so people ought to be able to make that choice for themselves.”" STATnews

RFK claims to want people to make their own choices, but choices based upon misinformation are not informed choices.
 
Well better dead than Autistic of course.
To be fair, when they think of 'autism', they think of the cases they've been fear-mongered to about, where a kids suffer from severe autism and for example stops talking or looking parents in the eyes at all, starts screaming and having meltdowns for the smallest things, suddenly regresses severely, etc. Honestly, if vaccines did cause such severe side-effects, I think a lot of people would be a lot hesitant to give them to their kids. Remember the skepticism to some of the Covid vaccines, even with far less severe side-effects?

I feel both camps are talking past each other here --one side is terrified of their child ending up severely disabled, the other side is offended and replies that 'but there's nothing wrong with autism, why do you hate people with autism so much?!'. Obviously they're not talking about the 'autism is a superpower!' stereotype of some boy or girl who is slightly socially... Off in a way that's hard to put a finger on, but who is gifted at math and science and a prodigy at chess. So you're left with two entrenched camps that push each other farther and farther away, because they both fundamentally misunderstand what the other side is talking about.

Also, no, of course they don't think it's better to be dead than to have autism. They don't believe childhood illnesses are dangerous in the first place, remember?
 
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To be fair, when they think of 'autism', they think of the cases they've been fear-mongered to about, where a kids suffer from severe autism and for example stops talking or looking parents in the eyes at all, starts screaming and having meltdowns for the smallest things, suddenly regresses severely, etc. Honestly, if vaccines did cause such severe side-effects, I think a lot of people would be a lot hesitant to give them to their kids. Remember the skepticism to some of the Covid vaccines, even with far less severe side-effects?

I feel both camps are talking past each other here --one side is terrified of their child ending up severely disabled, the other side is offended and replies that 'but there's nothing wrong with autism, why do you hate people with autism so much?!'. Obviously they're not talking about the 'autism is a superpower!' stereotype of some boy or girl who is slightly socially... Off in a way that's hard to put a finger on, but who is gifted at math and science and a prodigy at chess. So you're left with two entrenched camps that push each other farther and farther away, because they both fundamentally misunderstand what the other side is talking about.

Also, no, of course they don't think it's better to be dead than to have autism. They don't believe childhood illnesses are dangerous in the first place, remember?
The two sides are NOT talking past each other. One side is LYING about vaccines causing people to be fearful about them.

The other side is TRUTHFULLY pointing out that vaccines do NOT cause autism and, furthermore, that they have made many childhood diseases and others a thing of the past and massively reduced death and illness from other diseases.

We know they are lying because they use a barrage of contradictory arguments that they refuse to defend.

Mike Griffith, in this very thread, proves he doesn’t believe the lies he peddles because he repeatedly refuses to answer my direct questions of his BS.

RFK Jr and his enablers are pure scum.
 
It's very very difficult for measles to kill a healthy person. We see a correlation between people who are hurt by measles, and people who don't have good nutrition, or don't have a good exercise regimen.
Who said the above?

I guess the girl didn't eat enought fries made in lard. This guy is bound and determined to kill more people. Enough is enough already; if you haven't already, write your representatives and demand they put pressure on this administration to oust this dangerous jagoff.
 
Who said the above?

I guess the girl didn't eat enought fries made in lard. This guy is bound and determined to kill more people. Enough is enough already; if you haven't already, write your representatives and demand they put pressure on this administration to oust this dangerous jagoff.
They won't do it. All the children who "die" will all be just crisis actors.
 
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The two sides are NOT talking past each other. One side is LYING about vaccines causing people to be fearful about them.

The other side is TRUTHFULLY pointing out that vaccines do NOT cause autism and, furthermore, that they have made many childhood diseases and others a thing of the past and massively reduced death and illness from other diseases.

We know they are lying because they use a barrage of contradictory arguments that they refuse to defend.

Mike Griffith, in this very thread, proves he doesn’t believe the lies he peddles because he repeatedly refuses to answer my direct questions of his BS.

RFK Jr and his enablers are pure scum.
"We're not talking past each other!" : proceeds to reply to something completely different than what I said:

I know. I know vaccines are safe and effective, that developmental disorders aren't among the side-effects, that you should vaccinate our children, that the people pushing the antivaxxer narratives are lying. You won't find many that disagree with that on a skeptic's forum.
 
More bull ◊◊◊◊ to lay at the feet of anti-vax morons, science deniers, and RFK Jr enthusiasts.

On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles.

By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world.



Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.

A 2021 study found that the therapy is highly effective in protecting exposed newborns from getting sick.
Thanks a lot, idiots.
 
Don't worry, they will blame the sudden outbreaks of measles on Biden or fentanyl-smuggling foreigners and the cult will be happy.
 
I can save the government a lot of money: the rise in autism is not due to cases actually rising, but due to more diagnoses by a better-informed public and medical community.

I initiated my daughter's testing, not her pediatrician or her school because I recognized her mild symptoms. I can confidently say that she would never have been diagnosed on the autism spectrum if I had not been aware of autism symptoms and had her tested.
We weren't the least bit surprised when our pediatrician recommended testing for our son before he was even two. We'd just sensed something was different, even from his infancy. Even the specialists told us that he had some signs of autism, but not others. Although I understand the term has fallen out of favor, he was called ' very high functioning' by many of the specialists who worked with him. He's something of a poster child for early intervention. He just turned 20, and he's a sophomore studying engineering in the honors college at his university, having graduated second in his class from high school. He's been on the dean's list since his first semester. He's very friendly and outgoing, and most people would probably just characterize him as 'a bit nerdy' (or even a lot nerdy, depending on one's disposition).

A friend of ours we met through an autism support community has two sons of his own on the spectrum. They're similar to our son in many ways. The friend, in his early 50s now, says he only realized that he's autistic because of his experience with his sons. When we were kids, children like that weren't diagnosed as autistic. They were typically regarded as just 'weird'. Looking back I knew several people growing up who were likely on the autism spectrum, but were never diagnosed because if anyone was even aware of autism, it was only exemplified by severe cases.

I also see a similarity with other conditions, like dyslexia. My dad is dyslexic, but was never diagnosed or treated. Having been born in a lower working class family in 1938, he was just dismissed as 'slow', which is a real tragedy, because my dad is anything but slow. Had he been born in 2015, by now some teacher would likely have said, "I have this student who's excellent at math and has no problems with verbal language, but is struggling with reading". He then would have been tested and diagnosed, and could have learned ways to help overcome his difficulties with reading. My dad is, as I said, a smart guy with a genuine curiosity about the world around him. If he could have satisfied his curiosity with a library card, I wonder how different his life would have been. Not that he hasn't had a good life, but it's definitely a good thing that fewer kids grow up without specialized help regarding such challenges, be they autism, dyslexia, ADHD etcetera.
 
It's just incredible. Kennedy has no medical background or government experience. He barely has experience as a working attorney. His history is chasing women and drug addiction.

Those are qualifiers to head HHS??? :rolleyes:

Hello?
Murica!!!
 
Emergency masking policies? Better hope against that doesn't reach RFK, jr. or trump.
That was my first thought, too. I can just picture Dump droning on about woke communist masking policies in globalist hospitals and dental offices and passing an EO banning all use of surgical masks.
 

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