What did Democrats do wrong?

[Emily's Cat]

Democratic Platform for 2028: "Hey, We're not the Orange ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊"

Because that worked so well this time?

 

[Hercules56]

Because that worked so well this time?

worked fine in 2020.

 

[Thermal]

Because that worked so well this time?

Worked in 2020. 2028 will have the benefit, like 2020, of having watched this clown in action again.

 

[Hercules56]

Democratic Platform for 2028: "Hey, We're not the Orange ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊"

"We will undo all the terrible damage trump did"

 

[Thermal]

"We will undo all the terrible damage trump did"

"Did you ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ learn your lesson this time???"

 

[thaiboxerken]

Worked in 2020. 2028 will have the benefit, like 2020, of having watched this clown in action again.

Will it be enough to overcome the election fraud and suppression that The Regime is doing? They learn new tricks every election and also have the benefit of Putin's mentorship in the process of fraudulent elections.

 

[plague311]

Will it be enough to overcome the election fraud and suppression that The Regime is doing? They learn new tricks every election and also have the benefit of Putin's mentorship in the process of fraudulent elections.

Whatever fresh hell they're going to commit on voting integrity they have to do within 2 years. I don't see the GOP holding on to, at the very least, the House. I'm not sure what the senate looks like but I'd bet the Dems pick up a seat or two there as well.

 

[Donal]

Worked in 2020. 2028 will have the benefit, like 2020, of having watched this clown in action again.

Not when half of your biggest names are acting like he is doing a lot of good stuff.

"Vote Democrat because Trump was mostly right!"

 

[Thermal]

Not when half of your biggest names are acting like he is doing a lot of good stuff.

"Vote Democrat because Trump was mostly right!"

A chunk of the Quiet 1/3 of our eligible voters woke up for 2020. I believe after the recession Trump seems determined to put us in, they will stagger out of bed and pipe up again.

 

[theprestige]

"We will undo all the terrible damage trump did"

I guarantee you they will have no idea how to undo most of the damage.

 

[Donal]

A chunk of the Quiet 1/3 of our eligible voters woke up for 2020. I believe after the recession Trump seems determined to put us in, they will stagger out of bed and pipe up again.

Assuming democrats don't run to the right. And if they manage to not ◊◊◊◊ this up enough, what will they do with the power they get? Push for real systemic change? Bring us back on track to pre-Reagan progress? try being to the left of LBJ? LOL, no.

 

[Donal]

I guarantee you they will have no idea how to undo most of the damage.

I think they'll have pretty good ideas how to do it, they just won't have the will to.

 

[Thermal]

Assuming democrats don't run to the right. And if they manage to not ◊◊◊◊ this up enough, what will they do with the power they get? Push for real systemic change? Bring us back on track to pre-Reagan progress? try being to the left of LBJ? LOL, no.

Agreed. It will be back to biz as usual. They were bought and paid for long, long ago (a few notables notwithstanding).

I can almost (underline that like six times) sympathize with Trump supporters for just wanting to flip the table, and ◊◊◊◊ the consequences.

 

[Hercules56]

I guarantee you they will have no idea how to undo most of the damage.

Naaa, we'll have a plan.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Naaa, we'll have a plan.

we even have a book about it.

 

[Donal]

Naaa, we'll have a plan.

Ya, that's what Ronald Moore said

 

[theprestige]

I think they'll have pretty good ideas how to do it, they just won't have the will to.

Agreed. It will be back to biz as usual. They were bought and paid for long, long ago (a few notables notwithstanding).

I can almost (underline that like six times) sympathize with Trump supporters for just wanting to flip the table, and ◊◊◊◊ the consequences.

A lot of what Trump is dismantling willy-nilly is the slow accretion of policies and institutions over many years of measured, bipartisan compromise, leavened by the occasional one-sided political victory. Trying to put all that back together in some functional form is probably beyond the capabilities of any group of politicians active today. Even the entrenched bureaucrats will have a hard time reverse-engineering the bureaucracy now in shambles.

 

[Thermal]

A lot of what Trump is dismantling willy-nilly is the slow accretion of policies and institutions over many years of measured, bipartisan compromise, leavened by the occasional one-sided political victory. Trying to put all that back together in some functional form is probably beyond the capabilities of any group of politicians active today. Even the entrenched bureaucrats will have a hard time reverse-engineering the bureaucracy now in shambles.

I recall reading somewhere that the Pentagon uses so many different generations of computer languages, and is so vast, that you kind of can't fix it anymore.

But what I think Trump.is dismantling is just...whatever. There's no saying the new fix will be any better, or save us a nickel, more than this wanton destruction. If your car is not getting good gas milage, a sledgehammer to all the glass will not necessarily make it better, but worse. Surgical moves are often smarter than cro-magnon ones.

 

[Ziggurat]

A lot of what Trump is dismantling willy-nilly is the slow accretion of policies and institutions over many years of measured, bipartisan compromise, leavened by the occasional one-sided political victory.

I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that our government bureaucracy is "measured". The more I see of it, the more bloated and dysfunctional it looks.

Trying to put all that back together in some functional form is probably beyond the capabilities of any group of politicians active today.

I'm not convinced that this is even Congress's proper job. Part of the problem seems to be that Congress has had too much say in the structure of the executive branch, not just its budget.

Even the entrenched bureaucrats will have a hard time reverse-engineering the bureaucracy now in shambles.

Good. Don't reverse engineer that monstrosity, start with a clean slate.

 

[johnny karate]

Good. Don't reverse engineer that monstrosity, start with a clean slate.

Exactly. Which is why when I need my house cleaned, I hire a bunch of inexperienced and unqualified kids to burn it down.