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What did Democrats do wrong?

What did Democrats do wrong?

  • Didn't fight inflation enough.

    Votes: 12 15.2%

  • Didn't fight illegal immigration enough.

    Votes: 22 27.8%

  • Too much focus on abortion.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Too much transgender stuff.

    Votes: 28 35.4%

  • America not ready for Progressive women leader.

    Votes: 26 32.9%

  • Should have kept Joe.

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Not enough focus on new jobs.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Nothing, Trump cheated & played dirty!

    Votes: 14 17.7%

  • Didn't stop Gaza War.

    Votes: 8 10.1%

  • I can be Agent M.

    Votes: 6 7.6%
  • Total voters
    79
Democrats adhered to "the norms" way too much in the fight against the Nazis. It's like bringing boxing gloves to a gun fight.
 
No.
Biden could have gotten a General Assembly Declaration that the invasion was illegal by International Law, gotten Ukraine to formally ask for help with removing Russian troops from Ukrainian territory, and made a couple of sorties of bombers to blow up all of the Russian artillery positions.
With Ukraine allies in total air supremacy, Ukrainians troops could have gotten rid of the Russians before they managed to mobilize.
 
Thermal said:
If you think what 'dems did wrong' that caused their loss was Pres Biden pardoning Hunter, Then there is no real discussion here.
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I explained in great detail why, IMO, the Dems lost, earlier in the thread.
In short: they were scared to run on their accomplishments in Consumer Protection, fighting Monopolies, green energy transition, abortion rights. And they missed the opportunity for Harris to distance herself from Biden on anything and everything negative, which would have been a no-brainer. Add to that a massive effort to not even be seen in the same room as Democrats worried about the genocide in Gaza - a tiny gesture would have gone all the way.
But Dems were too scared about not getting votes from the people who would never vote for them, instead of mobilizing the people who would.


The point about the Hunter Pardon is that is way about the only rather unprecedented thing Biden did.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I explained in great detail why, IMO, the Dems lost, earlier in the thread.
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It's a 47 page long thread that I have not memorized the responses in. We are also not in a position called 'earlier in the thread'.

You stopped to correct me on what the OP asked. I pointed out you were way out in left field regarding said OP. Then you said Biden shouldn't have pardoned his son.

Forgive me, man, but this ain't exactly straight line thinking you have going on here. Straighten the pretzel out, if you please.
The Great Zaganza said:
In short: they were scared to run on their accomplishments in Consumer Protection, fighting Monopolies, green energy transition, abortion rights. And they missed the opportunity for Harris to distance herself from Biden on anything and everything negative, which would have been a no-brainer. Add to that a massive effort to not even be seen in the same room as Democrats worried about the genocide in Gaza - a tiny gesture would have gone all the way.
But Dems were too scared about not getting votes from the people who would never vote for them, instead of mobilizing the people who would.
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Which is not doing anything wrong. They were doing their generations-old democrat thing, which is not widely regarded as organized.

The voters are the only problem, not the dems or anyone else. Anyone with a functioning web connection and mind can see what the democrats and their competition were doing and their track records during a TV commercial break. It takes no effort. The dems don't even need to do anything at all in the internet age, beyond their jobs.
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The point about the Hunter Pardon is that is way about the only rather unprecedented thing Biden did.
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So... in response to pointing out you hadn't read the Op that you were correcting my interpretation of, you delivered a non-sequitur? OK.
 
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Blaming the voters has been what Dems have always done, and it has never helped them.
Dems lost this election by ignoring what the base told them they really cared about, assuming that they would vote blue no matter what and in huge numbers against a Trump; so they concentrated on stealing votes from the Republicans, which was just plain stupid, and cost them votes on the Left without gaining anything in the center-right.

Dems should stop pretending that they are the Party for every American, and return to being America's Worker Party (instead of CEO and Lawyer Party): a two Party system works by each side sticking to their Base and trading terms, not one trying to stay in power forever by doing something for everyone.
 
I agree that the Dems didn't motivate the base enough. However, voters also share the blame, the ones that didn't vote and those that voted for the Nazi party.
 
LOL. Yes, if democrats were something other than what they unabashedly *are*, they might have fared better.

That's not doing anything 'wrong'. They by and large sold us out long, long ago.

If they wanted or even gave a ◊◊◊◊ about working people, they would essentially be another political party.
 
well i think the dems care about workers as much as capitalists can. which is way more than the fully embracing fascism republicans do. they just present their policy in a more honest way.
 
And I don't think, as a group, they give a rat's ass about you after they get your vote. They done joined the 'them' team, leaving the 'us' team long in the rear view mirror.
 
Good news, Democrats, just two days ago, Tim Walz said he may run for president in 2028! He would make a great candidate (well, to ensure the Republicans won). Yes, he'd be confronted with commercials that would prove he lied about being in combat and lied about his role as a high school sports coach, but the Democrat base doesn't care about such things anyway, as long as he's deemed woke enough. And, boy, he's woke!

When he runs, be sure that he doubles down on forcing women to compete against biological males, even if women occasionally get injured by them. Be sure he also doubles down on demanding that minors have "access" to irreversible transgender surgery, never you mind the documented risks that come with it, and never you mind that the reasoning part of the human brain doesn't even fully develop until your early 20s.

Equally important, be sure he argues for reopening the border and for allowing thousands of violent criminals back into the country. After all, thugs need to earn a living too, and it's not right that they've been deported without severance pay and health benefits.
 
mikegriffith1 said:
Good news, Democrats, just two days ago, Tim Walz said he may run for president in 2028! He would make a great candidate (well, to ensure the Republicans won). Yes, he'd be confronted with commercials that would prove he lied about being in combat and lied about his role as a high school sports coach, but the Democrat base doesn't care about such things anyway, as long as he's deemed woke enough. And, boy, he's woke!

When he runs, be sure that he doubles down on forcing women to compete against biological males, even if women occasionally get injured by them. Be sure he also doubles down on demanding that minors have "access" to irreversible transgender surgery, never you mind the documented risks that come with it, and never you mind that the reasoning part of the human brain doesn't even fully develop until your early 20s.

Equally important, be sure he argues for reopening the border and for allowing thousands of violent criminals back into the country. After all, thugs need to earn a living too, and it's not right that they've been deported without severance pay and health benefits.
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I bet this sounded way wittier and scathing in your head than it did out loud.

Anyway, Walz would make a better candidate than anyone the GOP would trot out. I actually like that idea. I hadn't thought about it since it's so early in the cycle but he would make a good candidate. Down to Earth, Midwestern, a genuinely good guy and overall he's really trustworthy. Plus all those reasons you mentioned.
 
mikegriffith1 said:
Good news, Democrats, just two days ago, Tim Walz said he may run for president in 2028! He would make a great candidate (well, to ensure the Republicans won). Yes, he'd be confronted with commercials that would prove he lied about being in combat and lied about his role as a high school sports coach, but the Democrat base doesn't care about such things anyway, as long as he's deemed woke enough. And, boy, he's woke!

When he runs, be sure that he doubles down on forcing women to compete against biological males, even if women occasionally get injured by them. Be sure he also doubles down on demanding that minors have "access" to irreversible transgender surgery, never you mind the documented risks that come with it, and never you mind that the reasoning part of the human brain doesn't even fully develop until your early 20s.

Equally important, be sure he argues for reopening the border and for allowing thousands of violent criminals back into the country. After all, thugs need to earn a living too, and it's not right that they've been deported without severance pay and health benefits.
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The best part is where you accuse Democrats of supporting violent criminals after you explicitly voted to have hundreds of violent criminals released from prison.

Also, this: Trump Released More Migrants With Criminal Records Than Biden: Report
 
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