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A Thread for Democrats Being Useless

Donal said:
Democrats can win elections if the Jim Crow laws take hold. they will just need to be as racist and classist as Republicans.
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Democrats wrote the Jim Crow laws. You know, the actual racist laws. Not voter ID laws, which are supported by a majority of Democrat voters and blacks.
 
Southern Conservatives wrote them. Now, at that time, since the Democrats were the dominant party in the South, it was mostly Democrats who wrote and passed them in the relevant states. So, yes,, that was the situation 100 years ago. What is the situation today?

and what's the difference between voter ID laws and Jim Crow laws? Do you know why a literacy test is considered discriminatory? It seems making sure someone can read is just a common sense rule.

And since you are going to hang your hat on polling, do you also see what it says about voter disenfranchisement? About early and mail-in voting? It seems like most people like the idea of voter ID laws, but generally aren't stupid enough to trust their implementation.

But enough of the derail. This si for Democrats being useless in the face of current events. If you want a thread about Republicans trying to sell racism, go start one.
 
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Donal said:
Southern Conservatives wrote them. Now, at that time, since the Democrats were the dominant party in the South, it was mostly Democrats who wrote and passed them in the relevant states. So, yes,, that was the situation 100 years ago. What is the situation today?
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The situation today is that it's still the Democrats pushing for racial discrimination and segregation. Except now they do it under the name DEI.

They haven't learned.
 
Really? You have devolved to "the people pointing out racism are the real racists!" Is it that hard for you to maintain your position, you can't even do the fake "I'm too good for this" routine anymore?

Again, please stop derailing this thread and go start your own thread where yo can "throw your heart out" to your fellow Republicans.
 
Democrats are very concerned about the influence of Elon Musk and other billionaires like Peter Theil. Not concerned enough to stop taking their money, mind you.

In January, the House Democrats’ campaign arm, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), raised more than $2.5 million from the top lobbying firm for two companies closely aligned Trump and DOGE—Palantir and SpaceX, according to the Federal Election Commission filing. The money was bundled by lobbyists with the bipartisan firm Invariant, which held a fundraiser for the DCCC on Jan. 22 that was headlined by DCCC Chairwoman Suzan DelBene (D-Wash.) and House Democratic Caucus Chair Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.).
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But of course, they would use Invariant. It's run by one of them
For both Palantir and SpaceX, Invariant is the firm they spent the most money with last year for federal lobbying services. Both companies continue to retain the firm this year. Invariant’s founder and CEO is Democratic insider Heather Podesta, who touts her Capitol Hill experience on tax-writing committees.
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Heather's ex-husband is Tony Podesta, the brother of former White House Chief of Staff and chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run John Podesta.
 
Norman Alexander said:
The Dems should be formulating well-liked policies that address the basic issues that Trump and Musk are creating. Workshop it if necessary, but make them appealing to the majority of the USA and answer the problems created by Trump.
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What in the very online keyboard warrior hell are you talking about?

If the Dems knew how to do this, they'd be doing it already, and they wouldn't have lost the election.

2024 was a referendum on just how much Americans hate the Democratic party. But I will give you props for originality: Everyone else is saying the Dems need to be even more hateable to American voters.
 
theprestige said:
What in the very online keyboard warrior hell are you talking about?

If the Dems knew how to do this, they'd be doing it already, and they wouldn't have lost the election.

2024 was a referendum on just how much Americans hate the Democratic party. But I will give you props for originality: Everyone else is saying the Dems need to be even more hateable to American voters.
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No, they haven't learned it at all. Remember, they are actually Conservative-lite, not "left". And they are still stuck in Clinton mode.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
They are as much slaves to big business and deregulation as the milk thief was. The big problem with western politics is that the main left wing parties have abandoned any left wing positions, adopting wholesale the rightist idiocy of the 80s.
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That's...40 years ago. Makes you think they might have been "right-ish" all along, doesn't it! ;)

Just FYI, the current Australian federal opposition is our "right wing". They are VERY conservative for our tastes. But they look and sound just like the US Democrats. Which suggests the US "right wing" is not just conservatives but full on ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ religio-fascists.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
That's...40 years ago. Makes you think they might have been "right-ish" all along, doesn't it! ;)

Just FYI, the current Australian federal opposition is our "right wing". They are VERY conservative for our tastes. But they look and sound just like the US Democrats. Which suggests the US "right wing" is not just conservatives but full on ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ religio-fascists.
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Yeah, they haven't changed since the Clinton years.
 
Ziggurat said:
Protesters at those "fiery but mostly peaceful" protests. Yeah, sure, that had nothing whatsoever to do with political violence. Even though businesses were looted, buildings were burned to the ground (including a police station). Nope, no violence whatsoever. And nothing political about it either.

Go on, pull the other one.
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Pull the other one about what? We’re talking about voting for candidates who actively condone and reward political violence, which every Trump voter absolutely did.

You declared “Oh, the irony” and then posted a link about bail money for protestors.

I don’t even know what point you think you’re trying to make.
 
theprestige said:
What in the very online keyboard warrior hell are you talking about?

If the Dems knew how to do this, they'd be doing it already, and they wouldn't have lost the election.
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Ya...that's the point
theprestige said:
2024 was a referendum on just how much Americans hate the Democratic party. But I will give you props for originality: Everyone else is saying the Dems need to be even more hateable to American voters.
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Hate them so much that the Republicans barely won? Did you forget that Democrats down the ballot generally outperformed Harris? One of the most frustrating parts of the Democrats' seemingly lying down is that the republicans did not actually win an overwhelming mandate.
 
theprestige said:
What in the very online keyboard warrior hell are you talking about?

If the Dems knew how to do this, they'd be doing it already, and they wouldn't have lost the election.

2024 was a referendum on just how much Americans hate the Democratic party. But I will give you props for originality: Everyone else is saying the Dems need to be even more hateable to American voters.
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It seems you’re letting your own hatred delude you because this theory only maybe barely works if you have the political knowledge and memory of a goldfish.

Republicans and right wing media have become a massive propaganda machine, and 2024 was the fruition of their decades of work building that machine.
 
johnny karate said:
It seems you’re letting your own hatred delude you because this theory only maybe barely works if you have the political knowledge and memory of a goldfish.

Republicans and right wing media have become a massive propaganda machine, and 2024 was the fruition of their decades of work building that machine.
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And they still had to cheat very heavily to win.
 
So, my representative, George Latimer, is hosting a town hall. A virtual town hall over Zoom. Questions will be prescreened. Probably trying to avoid uncomfortable inquiries as to why AIPAC spent almost $2.5 million on a House primary (blew away the previous record) to help a 70-year-old take a demotion.

Anyway, I want to ask him if the Democrats are willing to swear off the money from billionaires and SuperPACs, since most of those are also donating to Republicans and using their influence to kill actual positive changes to our lives. Any ideas on how to phrase it?
 
Well the democrats can pass laws if the majority does not take funds from an industry such as banking. Elizabeth Warren put those protections in an an office to deal with consumers and banking issues.

Not every industry can buy all Senators.
 
theprestige said:
2024 was a referendum on just how much Americans hate the Democratic party. But I will give you props for originality: Everyone else is saying the Dems need to be even more hateable to American voters.
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It was no such thing. MAGA (20%) hate and fear us. The rest do not see us as that, more like we are seen as ineffective and irrelevant. And we are too involved in useless things like college education.

Harris lost by 2% which can be accounted largely by her being a black woman and somewhat of a foreigner.
 
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As good as Trump is at trying to get himself arrested, perhaps they're just not interfering as the opponent makes obvious mistakes?

Actually, they're filing lawsuits and whatnot. The press just isn't as interested in mentioning that as they are making a report every time Trump farts. The problem is that the actual functions of government are quite boring compared to Trump continually making an ass out of himself. I hate to say it, but in this case, just letting him have the spotlight while quietly opposing him behind the scenes might be the best policy... it's not like he's actually making any decisions that people will approve of in the long term.
 
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