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Trump's Second Term

They love their sexual deviants and criminals. To them, trafficking sex isn't wrong.
For example, they only tanked Matt Gaetz because no one liked him. They had no issue with the pedophilia.
 
Okay then, suppose there's a "deal" with Russia, and it gets its "reward", and it stops attempting to conquer all of Ukraine tomorrow.

What about the next day? What stops Russia from resuming its conquest? You going to bribe it again to stop?
The "bribe" isn't going to be a one-time payment. That's another benefit of doing it in the form of trade. The bribe goes away if Russia re-invades. They have to keep not invading to keep getting the "bribe".

But no, I do not expect that alone to be enough. Nor do I suspect that will be the entirety of the agreement. I fully expect Ukraine gets something as well, because otherwise they won't agree, and if they don't agree, the war won't end. And what I expect Ukraine to ask for, and get in some form, is a stick for Russia to go along with the carrot.
What stops Russia from attempting to conquer another neighbor?
Which other neighbor? Belarus? They don't need to. The Baltic states? Finland? Already part of NATO. Kazakhstan? Yeah, good luck with Afghanistan 2.0. Mongolia? No point, there's nothing there. China? Bust out the popcorn.

Georgia has some concerns, but invading over the Caucuses isn't an easy feat, and Russia's military is already depleted. They're probably at less risk now than they were in 2020.
Because surely you're not stupid enough to think Russian ambitions end with half of Ukraine, or all of Ukraine.
It's not just about ambition, it's also about ability.
 
Nothing except for consolidating his power
Meaning gaining control of the executive branch. Oh noes!

That's what he's supposed to do. Every president is supposed to have control of the executive branch. That's why we have elections.
and punishing the people who held him accountable for his previous attempts to overturn a free and fair election.
Why should any president be obligated to keep people in key positions within the executive branch who will work against his policies? There's nothing democratic about that.
 
Meaning gaining control of the executive branch. Oh noes!
No, don't put words in my mouth. He's consolidating his personal power. The rule of law means that the President is not above the law that governs the exercise of his officer. The Appointments Clause makes this absolutely clear.

Why should any president be obligated to keep people in key positions within the executive branch who will work against his policies? There's nothing democratic about that.
They didn't act against his policies. They acted against his behavior. That's an incredibly important difference. Just because a President has a policy doesn't mean that policy is being lawfully carried out. That's why we have people whose job it is to determine lawfulness.
 
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So Amazon apparently removed 1984 from Kindle. The jokes write themselves.
First off, this happened more than 15 years ago. Second, this isn't an accurate representation of what happened. A version of 1984 (as well as Animal Farm) was put on Amazon by a publisher that didn't actually have the publishing rights to these books in some of the territories they were being sold. Amazon didn't catch the mistake before some customers bought illegal copies. When it found out, it deleted those copies and refunded customers who bought the book. A version of 1984 from the actual rights holder in those territories was and remains available.
Oh, and apparently they're also taking away your right to download Kindle books. Hurry up and download before that right goes away.
Yes, that's new. But it's got nothing to do with Trump, it's just the latest in a long line of companies making ever more restrictive controls over access to digital media.
 
By dismantling the executive branch
Um... the executive branch doesn't exist to check his personal power. That's not how it works. To the extent that he's dismantling anything, that reduces the power of the executive branch, and thus his personal power. If you want to expand your power as a political leader, you expand government, you don't shrink it.
and removing oversight.
He's removing some ineffective forms of oversight and instituting others. Which he gets to do as President. We're all finding out a lot about government spending that we didn't know before. I don't see that as a net loss of oversight, I see that as an increase.
You dodged the point and begged the question.
The point isn't relevant, because it was your own attempt at dodging mine. And no, I don't think it really was begging the question. I think we all know it's true.
 
I don't want them to either. But that doesn't answer the question of what to do, given that we don't live in an ideal world. Is your aim to punish Russia, or to stop more Ukrainians from dying? Which is more important to you?

When did Ukrainian deaths stop meaning anything to you?

I would like that too. But there's no road map to make that happen. The war has been going on for three years now. How long do you think it's going to take for them to retake the territory they lost? Three more years? Ten more years? Do you want to commit American soldiers to fighting and dying on Ukrainian soil? Do you want to commit French and German soldiers to do that? Nobody before Trump did, so why would you expect Trump to? And if we're not doing that, then what exactly is your plan to restore Ukraine's borders?

What you want can be very different from what you can get.

Do you not understand the concept of negotiations? Because it doesn't seem like it to me.

So let me make it very simple. Do you want a negotiated end to this conflict, or do you want it to keep going for years more? And if you want a negotiated end, what exactly do you think that Russia would actually agree to in order to end it? Because you don't seem to actually have any idea on that front.
It's for Ukraine to decide if and when it stops fighting and what, if anything they concede or give up.

It's not for Trump and Putin to sit down and carve up the country and it's resources between them to enrich themselves.

If they want to keep fighting for their country and independence they should be allowed to and there are plenty of countries that support hem.

Trump and Putin can ◊◊◊◊ off.
 
Do you want to fight this war to the last Ukrainian, or do you want the war to end soon?
How about something better than "peace in our time"? Don't confuse a temporary cessation of gunfire with "peace".
If you want it to end soon, then there are in principle three ways to do that. 1) Ukrainian defeat, 2) Russian defeat, and 3) a negotiated settlement. 1) is undesirable and unlikely given western aid. 2) is impossible to achieve, because it would require direct involvement of western militaries, and we don't want to do that for rather understandable reasons. So we're left with 3) a negotiated settlement.
Why are you putting the burden on the country that was invaded? And not even bringing them to the table to negotiate?
And to get a negotiated settlement from Russia, you need to offer them something.
"your soldiers will stop dying"
What they really want is a Ukraine that has to bend to their will, like Belarus does. The specific amount of territory they hold isn't important, the territory is merely a tool to exert control over Ukraine.
And that's what you are proposing to give.
What Ukraine wants is security guarantees so that they don't have to bend to Moscow's will. NATO membership would do that, but the rules of membership basically already give Moscow a veto over that. And any other security guarantee is going to be directly counter to what Moscow wants.
Pretty sure invasion and occupying territory is directly counter to what Ukraine wants.
Realistically, the only way to end this war soon is to offer Russia something else, something that would be valuable enough for them to give up their influence over Ukraine. And since we can't offer them the Baltic states in exchange, that something else is going to have to be money, in some form or other. That's all we can offer Russia, really.
Pull out of Ukraine, we lift some of the sanctions we hit them with in response to the invasion.
So basically the options are we offer Russia money in some form (and trade is a pretty good form, since it doesn't come out of our budget), or just keep fighting. But Ukraine has already lost a lot of people. And they will keep losing people as long as this war continues. Ukrainian is already facing a demographic implosion, the longer this war drags on, the worse that implosion will get. The long-term survival of the country depends not only on its future international relations, but just having enough people to make a nation. It's easy to want to stick it to Russia when we aren't the ones dying to do it, but as long as we aren't, this war won't end in what looks like a victory for Ukraine. That's the harsh reality of the situation, and it does no one any favors to pretend otherwise. Now, details matter, and the details haven't been determined. So maybe whatever deal we end up with won't be good, or won't work, or won't be agreed to by both sides. But the fact that we're trying to reach a deal isn't a bad thing in and of itself. And that includes the fact that part of the deal is inevitably going to look like a reward to Russia. Because it has to, in order to get them to give up on keeping Ukraine under their thumb.
And the next time Putin's popularity dips and he needs a quick way to drum up support? Because that is part of what happened here. He's been growing unpopular domestically. He needed something to distract from the growing problems at home. Since those problems are still there, he'll need to do something else to distract people.

And only an idiot would trust the Trump administration to properly negotiate this deal. He'll sell out Kyiv in exchange to build Trump Resorts Sochi
 
Um... the executive branch doesn't exist to check his personal power.
Yes it does, because it is nominally answerable to Congress via the Appointments Clause, which gives authority to Title 5. This in turn gives rise to the legal doctrine of the presumption of regularity, which courts have recognized.

To the extent that he's dismantling anything, that reduces the power of the executive branch, and thus his personal power.
No, that's now how it works. He's removing people who have traditionally had discretionary and oversight power within the executive branch and either not replacing them or replacing them with loyalists—all without ceding any power away from the executive. The Trump administration has already tried to claim it holds the true power of the purse and thereby has sole discretion over appropriated funding.

He's removing some ineffective forms of oversight and instituting others. Which he gets to do as President. We're all finding out a lot about government spending that we didn't know before.
No, we aren't. We're seeing an incredible amount of disinformation and straight-up lies by people who want to convince you that the rank-and-file operatives they're doing away with were somehow part of some evil cabal.

The point isn't relevant, because it was your own attempt at dodging mine.
No.
 
So Amazon apparently removed 1984 from Kindle. The jokes write themselves.
Oh, and apparently they're also taking away your right to download Kindle books. Hurry up and download before that right goes away.

To be fair to Amazon, not only did they not remove it (I've just bought his complete works for 49p) but Audible did a big name audio drama of it last year starring Andrew Garside.
 
Do you want to fight this war to the last Ukrainian, or do you want the war to end soon?
I want to fight this war to the last Russian, if that's what it takes. And I want it done sooner rather than later. And I want to support Ukraine in their willingness to take on this heavy burden, in any and every way we can.

I think a victorious Ukraine, and a defeated Russia, will be a net good for the world. I think supporting Ukraine is an investment that will prove incredibly lucrative to its future trading partners, if we see it through.

I think abandoning Ukraine has been perhaps the single biggest ◊◊◊◊ up of the modern America first conservatives. Just as I think giving Israel the high hat has been one of the progressives' greatest foreign policy sins.

It saddens me greatly, that you and I are on opposite sides of the Ukraine issue.
 

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