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Ed Does anyone here believe that Princess Diana's car crash was suspicious?

"It was when word got out that he had enjoyed a long correspondence with the Princess of Wales during the Gulf War that he was discharged from the Life Guards, and it was made clear that any future contact with fellow officers would be unwelcome.

The military was his life’s blood, his present and his future. It was around this time, in 1994, that I met him, He was in shock and hugely bitter towards the Army. He could not envisage what his future would hold without the structure and camaraderie of regimental life."


Translation: he was eventually forced out of the military cause of Charles and it ruined his life.

To be fair, the other stuff (like his business failing) probably wasn't Charles' fault.

Probably.
 
No one gives a ◊◊◊◊.

How you doing on THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD YOU YOURSELF STARTED, YET ARE TURNING YOURSELF INTO A PRETZEL TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT OF?
 
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BartholomewWest said:
"It was when word got out that he had enjoyed a long correspondence with the Princess of Wales during the Gulf War that he was discharged from the Life Guards, and it was made clear that any future contact with fellow officers would be unwelcome.

The military was his life’s blood, his present and his future. It was around this time, in 1994, that I met him, He was in shock and hugely bitter towards the Army. He could not envisage what his future would hold without the structure and camaraderie of regimental life."


Translation: he was eventually forced out of the military cause of Charles and it ruined his life.
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You claimed that he was posted to Germany to keep him away from Diana. That would require him to be kept in the military.
 
BartholomewWest said:
Oh crap. It is even worse than I thought.

Apparently, he's a recluse who lives with his mother:


Part of that isn't due to Charles, though. It was cause he wrote books about Diana and people were mad at him for snitching.
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What is it "worse" than? Did someone force his current lifestyle on him as a punishment?

So what about some actual evidence to support your op? Although it seems like the answer to your thread title is a resounding "no". Your ramblings appear to have convinced no one who recognizes evidence for what it is.
 
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Mojo said:
You claimed that he was posted to Germany to keep him away from Diana. That would require him to be kept in the military.
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They sent him to Iraq in an effort to get him killed. When that didn't work, he was ejected from the military altogether. Other officers were told to shun him.

Afterwards, he had one misfortune after the other and ended up a broken man.

To be sure, his arrest for coke was his own fault (probably.)
 
BartholomewWest said:
They sent him to Iraq in an effort to get him killed. When that didn't work, he was ejected from the military altogether. Other officers were told to shun him.

Afterwards, he had one misfortune after the other and ended up a broken man.

To be sure, his arrest for coke was his own fault (probably.)
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Citation(s) needed.

Also, I can't help but notice a distinct lack of evidence that Diana was murdered in this post.
 
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BartholomewWest said:
They sent him to Iraq in an effort to get him killed. When that didn't work, he was ejected from the military altogether. Other officers were told to shun him.

Afterwards, he had one misfortune after the other and ended up a broken man.

To be sure, his arrest for coke was his own fault (probably.)
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The affair with Diana ended in 1991. He left the army in 1994, when he retired with a promotion to major.
 
BartholomewWest said:
They sent him to Iraq in an effort to get him killed. When that didn't work, he was ejected from the military altogether. Other officers were told to shun him.

Afterwards, he had one misfortune after the other and ended up a broken man.

To be sure, his arrest for coke was his own fault (probably.)
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Most of the British Army was sent to Iraq.

Why do you think a Squadron Leader in an elite armoured cavalry regiment would not be sent along with his squadron?

The Life Guards is the most senior regiment of the British Army and part of the Household Cavalry,

They are a reconnaissance regiment.

A Squadron is a big command, it comprises

Squadron Headquarters Troop of two Land Rovers, Two FV105 Sultan command vehicles and FV104 Samaritan armoured ambulance
Three Reconnaissance Troops of four FV107 Scimitar tanks
Guided Weapons Troop of four FV102 Striker anti-tank guided missile vehicles
Support Troop of four FV103 Spartan armoured personnel carriers
Mechanical Engineer Section of FV103 Spartan and FV106 Samson armoured recovery vehicle

It's not an insignificant thing.
 
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As for the cocaine it was half a gram, he was arrested outside a restaurant after a tip off by a journalist. He was let go with no charges.
 
BartholomewWest said:
If you think this was a "real promotion", you live in La La land. I am sorry - but there's no other way to put it.

People don't doubt he was sent there to remove him from Diana. They snort with amusement and disbelief that he could think it was real! That's the part they doubt. "Wait, Hewitt really thought it was a promotion!? No way! Are you sure he actually said that!?"

By the way, he was sent into a war zone. That was Iraq, during the Gulf War.

In his memoir, he said a bunch of people surrendered to him and he was told "Shoot them all." Even though they had surrendered.

He dodged the question of whether he did or didn't shoot them, though.

Part of me wonders if he was....being set up. Baited into committing war crimes.

He now works as a gardener or something. He's been reduced to that. So clearly his life didn't go well. He was also arrested for possessing drugs or something like that.

Eta: Hmm, he actually says that the end of the affair with Diana made him suicidal. That he was on the brink of committing suicide.
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I note that other than your assertions and suppositions you provide nothing to support your claims, just lots of wallpaper words.
 
BartholomewWest said:
They sent him to Iraq in an effort to get him killed. When that didn't work, he was ejected from the military altogether. Other officers were told to shun him.

Afterwards, he had one misfortune after the other and ended up a broken man.

To be sure, his arrest for coke was his own fault (probably.)
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More unsupported assertions.
 
Andy_Ross said:
As for the cocaine it was half a gram, he was arrested outside a restaurant after a tip off by a journalist. He was let go with no charges.
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On reflection: Nevermind. Until and unless @BartholomewWest can provide any evidence of Diana being murdered (which was his original claim) there is nothing more to say here.

@BartholomewWest, what have you got? Please note: insinuation, rumour, innuendo, suggestion and such are not good enough. Evidence of Diana being murdered is what you claimed to have, and evidence of Diana being murdered is what is required.

i hope that is clear. Now, what do you have?
 
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Vixen said:
However, according to the Lobster (winter 1999), there are rumours that electricity supplies in the road tunnel were cut off 25 minutes before Diana's Mercedes entered it.
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If all electricity supply to the tunnel were suddenly cut off, at night, that would have been a major hazard. Switching off the lights, in a tunnel, at night? It would be pitch black in there.
 
So after 16 pages of talk, the argument for the crash being suspicious consists of this:

Hearsay - Wikipedia

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Hearsay, in a legal forum, is an out-of-court statement which is being offered in court for the truth of what was asserted. In most courts, hearsay evidence is inadmissible (the "hearsay evidence rule") unless an exception to the hearsay rule applies.
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And this:

Argument from incredulity - Wikipedia

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Argument from incredulity, also known as argument from personal incredulity, appeal to common sense, or the divine fallacy, is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition must be false because it contradicts one's personal expectations or beliefs, or is difficult to imagine.
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And nothing else.
 
BartholomewWest said:
If you think this was a "real promotion", you live in La La land. I am sorry - but there's no other way to put it.

People don't doubt he was sent there to remove him from Diana. They snort with amusement and disbelief that he could think it was real! That's the part they doubt. "Wait, Hewitt really thought it was a promotion!? No way! Are you sure he actually said that!?"

By the way, he was sent into a war zone. That was Iraq, during the Gulf War.

In his memoir, he said a bunch of people surrendered to him and he was told "Shoot them all." Even though they had surrendered.

He dodged the question of whether he did or didn't shoot them, though.

Part of me wonders if he was....being set up. Baited into committing war crimes.

He now works as a gardener or something. He's been reduced to that. So clearly his life didn't go well. He was also arrested for possessing drugs or something like that.

Eta: Hmm, he actually says that the end of the affair with Diana made him suicidal. That he was on the brink of committing suicide.
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Hilarious that you say this when you've outright admitted to ignoring inconvenient things to sustain your own delusions of competence.
 
I still think it is odd that Diana told both the butler and the lawyer that Charles was going to kill her in a car crash.... before later dying in a car crash.

I still maintain that saying "If you get caught writing letters to another man's wife, you will be fired from your job, if her husband is powerful" is very, very different from (let's say) flat earth.
 
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