What did Democrats do wrong?

What did Democrats do wrong?

  • Didn't fight inflation enough.

    Votes: 12 15.2%

  • Didn't fight illegal immigration enough.

    Votes: 22 27.8%

  • Too much focus on abortion.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Too much transgender stuff.

    Votes: 28 35.4%

  • America not ready for Progressive women leader.

    Votes: 26 32.9%

  • Should have kept Joe.

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Not enough focus on new jobs.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Nothing, Trump cheated & played dirty!

    Votes: 14 17.7%

  • Didn't stop Gaza War.

    Votes: 8 10.1%

  • I can be Agent M.

    Votes: 6 7.6%
  • Total voters
    79
Emily's Cat said:
Look, if you want to hold the opinion that because Trump hasn't fixed the economy by fiat on day one, and hasn't magically introduced EOs that transform the economy within the first week then it just must not matter to anyone who voted for him... well, I can't dissuade you from holding shallow thoughtless views.
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No, that is not what I believe, nor is it what I said, nor is it something that someone engaging with me in good faith could reasonably believe I had said.
 
That was a very generous description of Rogan. He's not "bro with a brain". And he doesn't ask hard questions. At least, not going in. If you do or he perceives you doing something that upsets him, he gets a little combative.
 
Reformed Offlian said:
No, that is not what I believe, nor is it what I said, nor is it something that someone engaging with me in good faith could reasonably believe I had said.
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And yet you're giving me grief because Trump hasn't done anything to fix the economy in their first 10 days of office because...? I don't even ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ know why you think that's relevant to anything I've said anywhere.
 
arthwollipot said:
Well, we know now that all trans people have to do is to put "Gulf Of..." before their name for Republicans to accept their name change.
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Trump has a lot of flaws, no question... but this isn't actually one of them. It was a very business-like solution, even if it seems truly bizarre at a shallow glance.

Drilling is currently banned in the Gulf of Mexico. No laws anywhere say anything about drilling in the Gulf of America, thus it's perfectly legal to drill there.

I don't agree with the premise, but I do recognize that it's not an idiotic move.
 
Tero said:
Trump approval is dropping a percentage a week. Soon down to 40%. next year below Biden 37%. Maybe 30% if Trump breaks government so it takes 4 years to repair.
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What's your source? FiveThirtyEight shows his favourability increasing.
Also, the fact that nearly 50% of people seem to approve of him makes me want to pull my hair out.
 
Donal said:
That was a very generous description of Rogan. He's not "bro with a brain". And he doesn't ask hard questions. At least, not going in. If you do or he perceives you doing something that upsets him, he gets a little combative.
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i agree, i think he has a reputation of that from years back and that doesn't describe joe in any way today. and, i belive the article illustrates, it goes well beyond simply combative against people that upset him. considering his relationship with peter thiel anyway, i don't think rogan is above taking money to say and do things.

anyway, from the article, about how he sabotaged the interview

“Wish we had known about this sooner, because he has the 25th blocked out as a personal day,” one of Rogan’s reps said.

“What about Saturday morning?” Flaherty countered.

“Only if it’s before 8:30 a.m.,” came the tough reply.

The tone is different, Flaherty thought. The vice president of the United States is offering to come to your f—ing show, and you keep putting up more hoops. Harris’s team still wanted to make it work, but a new wariness set in.

On October 22, the same day the Harris camp announced the rally, the Associated Press reported that Trump would be Rogan’s guest on Friday — the “personal day” Rogan had originally reserved.

Mutual friends Elon Musk and Dana White had convinced Trump and Rogan to bury their dispute, according to a Trump aide. There would be no Harris interview.

In this wild hand of Texas Hold ’Em, Harris aides thought they had one more ace to play. Beyoncé was in Houston and willing to perform at the rally. “The plan changed like 20 times that day, and they landed on her singing ‘Freedom’ a cappella before Harris walked on stage,” said one person familiar with the back-and-forth between the campaign and Beyoncé’s team.

As consolation prizes go, a Beyoncé performance ranked pretty high. She was a bigger star than Rogan — a bona fide global diva — and “Freedom” was the campaign’s theme song. But Beyoncé would not give Harris the potential benefits of a Rogan interview: demonstration of her willingness to go outside her comfort zone and connection to a new audience.

Worse for Harris, Beyoncé didn't perform. She would speak. But she would not sing.

No Rogan. No “Freedom.” The campaign kept its poker face, but it had played out a losing hand. Trump spent three hours with Rogan in an interview that instantly went viral. The contrast amounted to a “traumatic event,” said one Harris aide, “that I will never forget.” But it wasn’t quite over. Rogan would later blame the missed connection on Harris and accuse her of refusing to talk about marijuana, even though her platform included legalization.

Harris aides made a final stab, offering to let Rogan talk with the vice president in Washington, D.C., the day after a closing-argument speech at the foot of the White House. Rogan’s team balked, citing the Austin-only condition.

Flaherty had seen enough. “You get one trip to Texas within three weeks of the election,” he told Rogan’s associates. “You don’t get two.”
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Tero said:
www.theguardian.com

Trump’s approval rating dips after rush of executive orders, poll finds

Poll shows disapproval of immigration policies and Gulf of Mexico renaming
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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"About 59% of respondents – including 89% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans – said they opposed ending birthright citizenship."

Well gosh. I oppose ending birthright citizenship. I do, however, support denying it to the children of illegal immigrants.

And to forestall the predicable nonsense: I support it being done via legislation, and applying only to children born after the law is passed.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Trump has a lot of flaws, no question... but this isn't actually one of them. It was a very business-like solution, even if it seems truly bizarre at a shallow glance.
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"He's so brilliant he looks stupid"
Emily's Cat said:
Drilling is currently banned in the Gulf of Mexico. No laws anywhere say anything about drilling in the Gulf of America, thus it's perfectly legal to drill there.
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Ya, that is definitely something him and his cult would believe.
Emily's Cat said:
I don't agree with the premise, but I do recognize that it's not an idiotic move.
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Do you have a stronger word than idiotic?
 
theprestige said:
"About 59% of respondents – including 89% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans – said they opposed ending birthright citizenship."

Well gosh. I oppose ending birthright citizenship. I do, however, support denying it to the children of illegal immigrants.

And to forestall the predicable nonsense: I support it being done via legislation, and applying only to children born after the law is passed.
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It would require a constitutional amendment, not merely a law.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Trump has a lot of flaws, no question... but this isn't actually one of them. It was a very business-like solution, even if it seems truly bizarre at a shallow glance.

Drilling is currently banned in the Gulf of Mexico. No laws anywhere say anything about drilling in the Gulf of America, thus it's perfectly legal to drill there.
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Simply not true. Biden withdrew new areas of the GoM from future leasing for oil&gas exploration.
Drilling and development in existing GoM leases was not banned, if anything, it is currently booming.
Emily's Cat said:
I don't agree with the premise, but I do recognize that it's not an idiotic move.
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It’s an idiotic move, especially so if done for the non-existent reasons above.
 
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EHocking said:
Simply not true. Biden withdrew new areas of the GoM from future leasing for oil&gas exploration.
Drilling and development in existing GoM leases was not banned.

It’s an idiotic move, especially so if done for the non-existent reasons above.
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And *technically* Biden's ban on any new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico wouldn't legally apply to new drilling in the Gulf of America.

Like I said, I think it's an inappropriate way to go about it... but it's also an entirely business-like solution to exploit legally defensible loopholes.
 
Emily's Cat said:
And *technically* Biden's ban on any new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico wouldn't legally apply to new drilling in the Gulf of America.

Like I said, I think it's an inappropriate way to go about it... but it's also an entirely business-like solution to exploit legally defensible loopholes.
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Again, “technically” incorrect. Drilling never ceased and new wells are being spudded as we speak.

Adding new lease areas was stopped.
Drilling, development and production never stopped and certainly was not “banned”.

“Technically” or otherwise.

You are discussing a solution in want of a problem.
And demonstrating a Trumpian understanding of the Biden statement.
 
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